From: South Central (Tamazunchale@web44tv.net) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:18:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? I am curious WHO has been here the longest--and when it started? I joined on September 11, 1997 and have enjoyed it ever since! I have no idea when this list got started, though--if I am not mistaken--it was started by Marcy Kulic and David Acheson. Marcy was the first person I spoke to upon joining--and (appropriately enough, with us starting Earthfall CxC this weekend) she helped me find a copy of Earthfall that month! Everyone has been really nice! I know that people who were already on the list when I joined used to say that the list was not the same as it had been, that it was "fun" and the members were like a family. Hopefully people will look back on our time with similar thoughts. I realized that it might not be all that different because after ExE ended new people joined the list and those already on the list were waxing nostalgic over that short (54 week) period. Well, onward we go. We know not where. That is probably right in line with the spirit of the show! Mateo
From: Mark Meskin (plastic.gravity@new44rock.com) Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:46:41 -0600 I've been here since sometime mid to late 1995, and the list was run by Nick Sayer, I believe. Marcy offered to take over when it became apparrent that Nick no longer had the time to do so anymore. E-gads. near 4 years. Scary. -Mark
From: Mark Meskin (plastic.gravity@new44rock.com) Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:53:13 -0600 Almost forgot, the list address was space:1999@quack.kfu.edu or something along those lines........ [EDITOR'S NOTE: I think it had a dash instead of a colon :-]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:53:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Anthony D." (atd1999@yahoo4tag.com) Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Hi! I mentioned this before...I was on the list sometime in 1995 (possibly earlier) until around summer, 1996...I was intending to rejoin that Fall, but forgot and then never did re-join until a few months ago. I don't think Nick Sayer was the list-moderator. I could be wrong here, but I think Nick was the guy that ripped people apart. There were some fierce flame-wars in those days. Dave Welle's archive mentions it, but it is not posted on his archive site (at least not the last time I checked)... Dave --- can you tell us if you have those wonderful posts? Will they be available for viewing? Since I've re-joined, I find this group of listmembers much more "intellectual"...and so far, everyone takes each other's opinions as just that --- opinion. There have been a few "well, I'm going to leave the list if you don't say something nice about (insert your favorite thing here)" posts, but it doesn't seem like too much of that. Let's all stick it out until at least Sept! Anthony
From: Simon Morris (simes01@global44net.co.uk) Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:51:25 -0000 In answer to Mateo's question, I joined the list in October 1997,not long after I first came onto the Internet. It was a while before I joined in any of the discussions(I think the Episode by Episode thread started just after I joined or maybe before...can't recall just now). I really came into my own when we started looking at Y2 I suppose when my contributions were very frequent. I hope to be able to contribute to the forthcoming look at the EC Tubb novel EARTHFALL...but at the moment due to work commitments I am barely able to find the time to read my mail,let alone join the discussions! Maybe that will change shortly! I am pleased to see a lot of new contributors to the List, (such as Hywel,who like me,lives in Wales...would it be the Aberystwyth area Hywel? I used to live in Newtown...) The future of the List therefore seems secure as we kick off 1999 that's for sure! Simon Morris
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:54:33 -0700 From: Marc Martin (mmartin@cnw4tag.com) Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? I've been lurking on and off the two Space:1999 lists since August 1994... this was around the same time I started up the UFO list... > Breakaway/War Games Laserdisk is bringing $610.00 on eBay. Wow! And I thought it was rather ridiculous when mine went for $360 around 6 months ago!!!
From: Mark Meskin (plastic.gravity@new44rock.com) Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:27:24 -0600 > I don't think Nick Sayer was the list-moderator. Nick never did actually moderate anything, but he was the guy running the list. Nice guy, he is missed. > I could be wrong > here, but I think Nick was the guy that ripped people apart. I think your confusing him with Nick(Cat we all beleive he was the same guy), who was indeed quite a little dickhead. Robert Ruiz got his ISP to revoke Nick/Cat's service after some of the crap he pulled. The other guy who you may have been thinking about was Ronald Dudley, who did seem like a nice chap at first, but then became a real SOB. I truly believe he did it to push peoples buttons, not for any convictions or opinions, just to yank everyones chain. Do you remember people talking about "gwent".....that was Dudley too if I recall.....what a jerk. Then there was funbox and his brother shoebox, two of the foulest mouthed kids you ever heard. John Boomershine used to write posts comparing the little tantrums to Haiku poetry.....hehehe. >There were some fierce flame-wars in those days. As I said, Nick didn't really moderate......anything.......goes...I guess was the policy! A lot of it was really good discussion, until someone made it personal, and resorted to name calling, spamming, and other nasty things. Remember the Religion(Creation-Evolution) blowout? Whew, I thought no one was comming back after that! It was Total List War, the war to end all list arguments!! We lost Shane Johnson after that, Dudley harrassed the hell outta that poor guy. > There have been a few "well, I'm going to leave > the list if you don't say something nice about (insert your favorite > thing here)" posts, but it doesn't seem like too much of that. Yeah, but I think a few of those folks actually stuck it out, after realizing that we are all not here just to be a reflection of his or her individual views... -Mark
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 21:43:43 From: "Phillip C. Merkel" (captphil@unix.asb4tag.com) Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? I looked through my old netscape bookmark file and found Nick Sayers old page http://www.brookes.ac.uk/~p0054463/space1999/1999faq1.html which has the original Space 1999 email list FAQ with instructions on how to subscribe to the old quack address. The FAQ is dated February 3rd, 1995. I tried some of the ftp sites in the list but didn't find any of the archives either I'm messing up because I used to access this stuff with different software and havn't been back in a couple of years OR it has been removed. I do have some of the old files on a zip disk that are listed in the FAQ directory. It also gives a list of the early members of the list. I think I must have joined sometime in 1995 too, because I recognize a lot of the stuff in the FAQ and I took the time to look up most of it. Because I was new to the internet and wanted to try to find stuff and this was ALL the 1999 stuff out there in 95. I also remember when Marcy came on, around the time I left AOL and went to a local ISP instead. I just remember her putting up the cyber musuem so fast! I felt like one day there was nothing and the next this incredable museum site. Later on Robert Ruiz came on. Also we had a lot of trouble with the quack email address for the list assomeone kept subbing people to the 1999 list when they didn't want to be on. This led to a lot of angry mail with people flaming the list thinking WE on the list were responsible for this. Thats where the new email address came from and the sub unsub tag at the bottom of our emails. We also had someone claiming to be Freddy Freidberger's son on the list but not much came of that and someone else who claimed (There was no proof at all of this) that there was an Australian animated version of 1999 out there as well! Ah the good old days! Phil M Currently reading: Dust by Charles Pellegrino
From: vtaltos@earth44link.net Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 23:45:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? I joined the list in March, 1998, having stumbled across it while doing research on Eagle models.. and have since immensely enjoyed the banter, insight, views, counter-views and overall good-natured adoration of a show I remember fondly from my youth. I was 10 when 1999 first came across the airwaves and unfortunately, I have only seen a couple of Columbia videos since.. This list has brought back waves and waves of good memories of times gone by.. but not forgotten. happy 1999 everyone.. Malcolm
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 06:16:59 +0100 Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? From: Horst Noll (HNoll@t-on44line.de) I joined '9'95 Horst
From: Jeff Doyle (jeffd@tranquility4tag.net) Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:06:43 -0600 I joined 7/98, although I was off for a few weeks in October or November, I think. -jeff
From: Petter Ogland (petter.ogland@dnmi4tag.no) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:34:05 +0000 Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? I joined the list in July 1997 and have had a wonderful time since. Lots of nice people, interesting disucssions and great fun. > I have no idea when this list got started, though--if I am not > mistaken--it was started by Marcy Kulic and David Acheson. Marcy was > the first person I spoke to upon joining--and (appropriately enough, > with us starting Earthfall CxC this weekend) she helped me find a copy > of Earthfall that month! Did David join up so early? I remeber him working on the "Return to Moonbase Alpha" site in the autumn of 1997 and the wonderful ping pong discussions I had with him during the part of ExE devoted to Year One. I had no idea he had been with the list for so long! > I realized that it might not be all that different because after ExE > ended new people joined the list and those already on the list were > waxing nostalgic over that short (54 week) period. Yes, the ExE was the best thing that ever happened to this list since I entered. 54 wonderful weeks! > Well, onward we go. We know not where. That is probably right in line > with the spirit of the show! Indeed, and into the unknown we go. Petter
From: Petter Ogland (petter.ogland@dnmi4tag.no) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:38:24 +0000 Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Simon wrote: > I joined or maybe before...can't recall just now). I really came into my > own when we started looking at Y2 I suppose when my contributions were very > frequent. Very frequent and very good. I remember you writing about THE TESTAMENT OF ARKADIA and then a summing up of Year One before you became a daily contributer to the Y2 discussions. Always insightful, always entusiastic. Petter
From: Petter Ogland (petter.ogland@dnmi4tag.no) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:57:46 +0000 Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Mark Meskin wrote: > Remember the Religion(Creation-Evolution) blowout? Whew, I > thought no one was comming back after that! It was Total List War, the war > to end all list arguments!! We lost Shane Johnson after that, Dudley > harrassed the hell outta that poor guy. 1998 must have been a very peaceful year then. I remember just before Mateo started the ExE that things were getting a bit hot, although not by far anything like the above. Before the ExE it seems that there was a war between the Y1 and Y2 enthusiasts, the Y2 people not daring to write about what they enjoyed slightly turning the whole list totally PC as the Y1 enthusiasts were becoming afraid of speaking in order to provoke the Y2 enthusiasts. A very bad circle indeed. This changed dramatically with the advent of the ExE discussions, however, and as some of the very best writers on the list turned out to be in favour of Y2 (Simon, Emma, David Welle and many more) the tension eventually loosed up a bit, I think. Today I feel the list has matured significantly. The amount of letters is amazing and people seem to go on with a much healthier "live and let live" attitude by keeping all kinds of threads running at the same time, contributing by writing about what the like, what they dislike, what makes them wonder, organising ways to get the CD, ways to attend the L.A. conferance and so on. The agreement of accepting to disagree and speak ones mind really seem to have done wonders for this list. I really like it here. Petter
From: Neilster (nrossin@en4tag.com) Subject: RE: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:02:25 -0500 I go back (lurking, of course..) to 95 or 96..back when Lucky George did the online alpha member list.. I remember all the shoebox and gwent stuff that went on. Nick was running the list then, tho silently. Even before the cybrary and museum existed..Some of ther more heated battles were for season 1 or 2.. and some strong opinions from Freddie-flamers. And what ever happened to John Boomershine, anyway? Hysterical lad. Lost a job and an ISP or 2 in the last year or 2 since I got knocked off the list..but I remembered the discussion for a breakaway-conference in 1999... I guess it's really gonna happen- wow! Coolness much. So now I'm back on the list, seeing lots of familiar names..lotsa new ones too. A smile and wave to all! Neilster
From: "Simon Morris" (simes01@global44net.co.uk) Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:28:38 -0000 Petter wrote: >1998 must have been a very peaceful year then. I remember just before >Mateo started the ExE that things were getting a bit hot, although not >by far anything like the above. Thats what I was thinking. I have only had the briefest of glances at the archives so I was mainly ignorant of the colourful history of this List and the way it has evolved. I was aware that there had been some unpleasantness and that there had been people leaving the List. In a way this is inevitable since there is always going to be "natural wastage",with people losing interest and others just joining us. >Before the ExE it seems that there was a war between the Y1 and Y2 >enthusiasts, the Y2 people not daring to write about what they enjoyed >slightly turning the whole list totally PC as the Y1 enthusiasts were >becoming afraid of speaking in order to provoke the Y2 enthusiasts. A >very bad circle indeed. Speaking for myself, I didn't contribute much to start with because I didn't feel as confident about my knowledge of Y1 as I did my Y2 knowledge. I remedied this by re-watching all the Y1 episodes but by the time I had done this the Y1 ExE was almost done. I was fully prepared for the Y2 ExE thread! >This changed dramatically with the advent of the ExE discussions, however, >and as some of the very best writers on the list turned out to be in >favour of Y2 (Simon, Emma, David Welle and many more) the tension >eventually loosed up a bit, I think. Thanks for the compliment Petter,and whether I agreed with others on the List or not,I've enjoyed the debates that we've had. I respect you for your enthusiasm over RATM. I don't particularly understand your enthusiasm for it of course....:-) I also don't particularly agree with many of Mark's opinions on Y2 (another man's meat is another man's poison etc..),but I have to say that I have been greatly entertained by the verbal sparring between you and Mark recently over DRAGONS DOMAIN and - of course - RATM. Certainly made me smile! >Today I feel the list has matured significantly. The amount of letters >is amazing and people seem to go on with a much healthier "live and let >live" attitude by keeping all kinds of threads running at the same >time, contributing by writing about what the like, what they dislike, >what makes them wonder, organising ways to get the CD, ways to attend >the L.A. conferance and so on. After a reasonably quiet period (towards the end of the Y2 ExE),there seems to me to have been an explosion of interest in the List,resulting in a lot of new contributors and a wide spectrum of subjects. I have to say that I deleted all the recent posts concerning Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica etc as I'm not familiar with the shows and wasn't sure(although I only briefly skimmed some of the posts)that they were of great relevance to what the List is about. OTOH,its good to see people comparing SPACE 1999 with other sci-fi shows of the time..... >The agreement of accepting to disagree and speak ones mind really seem >to have done wonders for this list. I really like it here. I'll agree 100% with you there Petter. Long may it all continue. Simon Morris
From: JSchill824@aol4tag.com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:02:20 EST Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? I love how Mateo seems to get the "lurkers" out of their lurk mode. :-) Well I joined the list around 1996. Around the same time as Mark, and I'm glad I did so. There have been wonderful questions and comments about this fascinating show and I've been able to start some lasting friendships just because of this wonderful electronic group. I must say however, when I meet some of our "list friends" at the S9 convention XII in Oregon, the faces didn't match the "letters". Example: Barry Scannell (white sleeve #143) has a Canadian, Alabama accent -- who would of thought ;-) So anyone who got their OLA button at the last Space:1999 convention, bring them, its great to met those who we've been writing to and reading from each and everyday! See ya in LA! (I'll try and bring more buttons for those who didn't get one!) Janet Schill
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:27:55 -0700 Subject: Re: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? From: Colleen A Bement (space1999nut@juno4tag.com) I joined the list in Dec. '97. It's the greatest! Colleen Bement MBA#169 "We're all aliens...'til we get to know one another" John Koenig
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 23:38:20 -0800 From: Mark Eidemiller (skylab@e-z4tag.net) Subject: RE: Space1999: When did YOU join the list? I was working for a public service business back in 1996, and that's when I first subscribed to the mailing list. Luckygeo was handling the Online Alpha roster, and I took the position as the official Chaplain. I've still got some of the Boomershine posts from the last few years. He showed up at the Portland convention, but kept himself in the background. I can hardly believe it's been this many years, and so much has happened. But I wouldn't trade it for anything. Hey, you all have been quite an extended family for me. Here's to another fine year, full of surprises.