From:  South Central (Tamazunchale@webtv44.net)
Date:  Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:15:32 -0800
Subj:  Space1999: Episode by episode

I would like to suggest that we watch the entire series episode by
episode.  One every week or so.  Then post our thoughts on great lines,
effects, continuity errors, plot holes, continuity establishment, etc. I
suggest we follow the order of episodes in Robert's Cybrary. 

Anybody interested?  Post your interest/disinterest in doing this on the
list--I don't want to do it alone--and we'll set up dates.  For example:
From December 1-7, watch and post on Breakaway.  This is just a
suggestion.  I realize that we can't all watch each episode on the same
night.  I suggest the same week.

How about it?

Mateo



From:  Alan Hoch (alanh@swcp44.com)
Date:  Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:52:38 -0700 (MST)
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by episode

Problem:  Not all of us (or even most of us) have S:1999 on tape 
or any other media to watch.  Sadly, I haven't seen it on TV or for sale 
for nearly ten years.  <sigh>



From:  Gordon Burgess & Carol Mason (gcb7@magna44.com.au)
Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:50:14 +1100 (EST)
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by episode

  In Australia the tapes have been available for ages through a Canberra
mail order company called "21st Century", David has a full range of Space
1999, UFO and others, they are British imports. I should imagine that if
they are available on our PAL format, then they would be available to you on
yours. Or do you know anybody who can convert them?

Take care, peace be with you,
TTFN
Carol "Hondo" Mason



From:  "Ellen C. Lindow" (sfdxb@scfn.thpl44.lib.fl.us)
Date:  Mon, 24 Nov 1997 22:34:12 -0500 (EST)
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by episode

Any excuse to watch 1999 is good enough for me.  Although this is more
structure than I usually allow in my scattered life.  Let's go for it.

Oh, I think that the SciFi channel is carrying 1999 again, I think at 6
pm.  My son was watching something on SCIFi last week and I heard a
commercial for it while I was passing through the room.  I heard Koenig
shouting that wonderful line "We don't commit _mindless_ violence".  You
know, of all the really good lines they had, why does Scifi choose that
one?



From:  djlerda@juno44.com
Date:  Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:36:54 EST
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by episode

>I heard Koenig shouting that wonderful line "We don't commit _mindless_ violence".

OK, I give.  What episode is that line from?

David J Lerda



From:  South Central (Tamazunchale@webtv44.net)
Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:39:07 -0800
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by episode

The "mindless violence" quote is from The Metamorph if I'm not mistaken.
As Mentor flexes his muscle to threaten Alpha after discovering the
robot Eagle sent to destroy Alpha.  I may be wrong but  I just watched
that episode last week and it rang a bell.

Mateo



From:  Petter Ogland (petter.ogland@dnmi44.no)
Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:34:28 +0000
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by episode / The Exiles

[EDITOR:  Relevant part only]

Hi all,

I think Mateo's proposal is an excellent one, so I will certainly
join.  I hope, however, that Mateo will be able to sign on as
project leader, and to write his introductory thoughts about each
particular episode every Sunday or whatever day he chooses to watch
the episode.

I look very much forward to this project, many of my favourite episodes
belonging to the beginning of Year One, so this is an excellent opportunity
to express feelings for why SPACE: 1999 is such a great series.

As to Alan Hoch's remark not everybody having all episodes on tape, if
one already has seen some the episodes or the episode under debate, there
should be no reason not to join in on the discussion.

I hope this will turn out to be a happy opportunity for many to express
there feelings, give there insights to the series and share memories and
favourite moments.



From:  relax@videotron44.ca
Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:55:12 -0500
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by episode

Hi Mateo, all!

Great idea! you could be our project leader, let's begin with
BREAKAWAY next week (dec 1st-7th).

We can talk about the script, plot holes, bloopers, special effects
and more. It will take almost a year (48 weeks) to review both seasons.

It will be a pleasure for me to watch and analyze one episode per week,
let's go for it!!!

Andre Beauchamp



From:  South Central (Tamazunchale@webtv44.net)
Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:58:52 -0800
Subj:  Space1999: Episode by Episode

Alright!  Some eight or nine people have written the list showing
interest in watching the series episode by episode.  A couple of people
have asked me to moderate or something like that.  If there's no
objection I think that would be fun.  What I suggest (suggest) is that
we break our analyses down into different areas along the lines of the
excellent Discontinuity Guide, Babylon File and the X-treme
possibilities.  Maybe someone (who has a printer! and a computer!) can
save our comments and compile them.  We could compile a critical
companion and make a site out of it....

Better yet!  Let's just have FUN watching the show and talking about it!
I am serious about the different areas though.  It might help us to
focus our ideas.

I will go over those three books and suggest areas for comments, for
example:  Goof, Great Lines, Continuity, Terrible Lines, Words of
Wisdom, Timeline, Plot holes, etc.  Once I post these please (or now)
tell me if you agree/disagree/have other suggestions/etc.

I suggest starting the first week of December.  So, December 1-7 is
Breakaway week.  Watch the episode as soon as you can and think about
your comments.  Then post them and we'll go from there.

Personally, I think this is what this list needs--to get back to basics!
I don't like arguing with people in life (unless I have to--generally I
just ignore people that bother me) and I find I tend to delete a lot of
messages before I read them these days.  I am excited by this idea (and
by the campaign too!).

I am totally looking forward to this.  Unfortunately I will probably
have to rank out at the end as, although I have all the laserdiscs, I
only have a sh**ty copy of the Bringers of Wonder off SciFi
Channel--chopped to bits and bits and bits and bits, and I never got
around to transferring The Immunity Syndrome and The Dorcons to video
(and I don't have a laserdisc player).  I transferred the others when I
worked at a school that had one. Long time ago.

What do you think?  Too many rules?  Add a few?  What's on your minds?
Tell me about your childhood....

Mateo



From:  David Acheson (dkach@hotmail44.com)
Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:51:47 PST
Subj:  Space1999: Episode by Episode / Those Movies

What a great idea but unfortunately I have to bow out. I am one of those 
who do not have most of the series on video. I have 4 episodes (2 Year 1 
and 2 Year 2) recorded off TV when YTV aired 42 of the 48 episodes a few 
years ago and one commercial tape from the J2 Communications collection 
("Matter of Life and Death"). I also recorded from TV many moons ago 
"Destination: Moonbase Alpha". Hardly a library this makes. Am anxiously 
awaiting Columbia House to get the new collection up here to Canada.

This has made me realize that I have not seen "Breakaway", "War Games", 
"The Metamorph", and "Space Warp" since the early 1980s when I last saw 
those movies edited from these episodes. As the individual episodes I 
have not seen them since the 1970s. Time to correct that.

Now that the subject has been brought up what does everyone think of 
those Space: 1999 movies? I for one thought they were horrible and try 
not to think of them when I think of the series. Call me a purist.



From:  Jhon (jhon@pottsville.infi44.net)
Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 1997 20:11:39 -0500
Subj:  Space1999: Episode by episode

"We don't commit mindless violence," is from the episode "Devil's
Planet." John is speaking with the whips and chains wardeness, while
both are watching a guy on the hunt.



From:  Dean A Dunday (ddunday@powerweb44.net)
Date:  Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:22:51 -0600
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by episode

I would do this but I don't have every episode.  I just sent in an order
for the series through Columbia House so maybe when they start coming I
can start participating more.

Kelly



From:  South Central (Tamazunchale@webtv44.net)
Date:  Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:27:23 -0800
Subj:  Space1999: Episode by Episode Guidelines

For all of you who are going to watch the series again episode by
episode (one per week) and discuss them on the list,  I suggest the
following areas of comment.

1.  Goofs/Nits:  This refers to any blunders like people
sitting/standing/sitting as the camera angles change, mis-labeled areas,
blunders spoken and seen.

2.  Plot holes:  This refers to things that just don't add up storywise.

3.  Artwork/Visuals:  Discussion of the wonderful/terrible
artwork/visuals/set designs/costumes, etc.

4.  Modelwork:  In general and before, during and after crashes.

5. Dialogue Triumphs:  

6. Dialogue  Disasters:

7.  Continuity:  A compendium of knowledge about characters'/Alphan/and
planetary histories as they grow and progress.   This includes
references, spoken or implied, to earlier episodes.

8.  The Mysterious Alien Force: by any other name, that which guides and
protects Alpha on its journey.

9.  Roots:  in relation to other
productions/mythology/literature/religion/etc.

10.The Bottom Line:  Your personal final assessment.

11.  Miscellaneous:  Any comments on acting, production values, behind
the scenes stuff, in jokes, etc.

12.  Who's on First?:  The Space:1999 timeline is very convoluted--only
superseded by Doctor Who.  This refers to when and where the episodes
take place.

You don't have to comment on all of these.  Please label your comments
with these area headings, though.  Please try to organize you thoughts
into the right areas.  This is not to stifle creativity but to make it
easier to discuss each idea.  Consider the area headings to be like
thread titles or subjects for chatrooms.

Any changes (additions or deletions) or comments should be sent to the
list as soon as possible. We can always tweak it later.

Week One:  Breakaway.  December 1-7  Discussion should be sent to the
list during those dates.

We are going to follow the episode order in the Cybrary.  So Week Two:
Matter of Life and Death.  December 8-14.

Bye for now,

Mateo



From:  South Central (Tamazunchale@webtv44.net)
Date:  Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:34:10 -0800
Subj:  Space1999: Episode by Episode

I sent some suggested guidelines for discussion to the list regarding
this.  I everybody ok with them?  Would anybody like to change them/add
to them/scratch them altogether?  December 1st is tomorrow!

Any response positive or negative.....?

Mateo



From:  judas@netmatters44.co.uk (B J Dowling)
Date:  Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:36:11 +0000
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by Episode

I'm OK with them.  If anyone else has the novels, how about some 
comparisons of those versions (based on the scripts before filming took 
place, I think) and the actual televised story? That way, those who have 
the books but not tapes or LDs can add to the discussions.

Maybe after this is all done, a couple of folks could write a more complete 
episode guide than many of those I've seen.  Hang on, didn't I try 
something like that a couple of years ago....?



From:  South Central (Tamazunchale@webtv44.net)
Date:  Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:08:00 -0800
Subj:  Re: Space1999: Episode by Episode

I was going to suggest reading the books episode by episode also!  You
read my mind.
Let's do it!



From:  South Central (Tamazunchale@webtv44.net)
Date:  Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:42:09 -0800
Subj:  Space1999: Episode by Episode Request

Robert Ruiz and the Cybrary have requested that those participating in
the Episode by Episode weekly discussion take note of the number of
Alphans killed and the number of Eagles crashed in each episode so as to
derive an "accepted" count through consensus.

He also asks that we pay attention to bloopers and blunders.

Just passing the word along.

I'm going to watch Breakaway today.  Post my comments soon.

Mateo



From:  South Central (Tamazunchale@webtv44.net)
Date:  Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:46:54 -0800
Subj:  Space1999: Episode by Episode

Hello all,

I'm sorry I haven't posted my thoughts about the episodes.  I have had a
few family crises to deal with and haven't gotten a chance to post my
thoughts.

To clarify the order of episodes.  We are following the production
order--as shown in the Cybrary.  I HAVE been reading all your posts and
have to say that it is a great discussion!  Let me just watch the last
eight minutes of Breakaway and MoLaD and I'll catch up.

Sorry for any disappointment in my lack of participation (anyone like to
sub for me, all you have do is raise four kids, ages 18-24.  Hey,
actually only two 18 and 19. :-) )

Mateo