Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 22:10:51 -0800 From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com Subject: Breakaway Hi All: Just watched "Breakaway" for the first time in 21 years and it STILL bugs me that when the moon is leaving Earth's orbit Helena is pinned to the floor in Main Mission but her hair is still curled and obviously not affected by gravity at all. Must be some EXTRA SPECIAL kind of hair spray on the market in 1999! Did you all spot the blooper with Koenig's spacesuit just before he crashes the Eagle? In most of the scenes he's wearing a kind of flat fabric collar, but then just before the crash, and after, he's wearing the usual accordian type. The only thing I can think of is that the scenes were shot out of order and the accordian types weren't ready in time for the start of shooting so they fabricated these cheapies that we never saw again. Also, Ggreg Perry pointed out that Commissioner Simmonds' Eagle in "Breakaway" has a red passenger module (both in miniature and full scale). I thought there would be a blooper here when Alan later takes it up, but sure enough, Alan's flying the red passenger module Eagle when he's supposed to be (this is hard to spot on the laserdisc to VHS copy I'm looking at so I'm wondering if you would even notice it on a broadcast version). Pity Lee Katzin couldn't have directed more episodes than the two he did. Another thing I pointed out to Ggreg is that if you look at the miniatures of the launch pads the only way that makes sense for the travel tube car to dock with the Eagle is to use the end door rather than the side doors. While they do use the end door in "Breakaway" and other episodes, there are also episodes where the travel tube car pulls alongside the Eagle passenger module, and yet there's just no way this could happen if you look at the miniature. Did I miss any bloopers in "Breakaway"? Robert PS: I listened carefully and it still sounds like Suzanne Roquette is saying "Tanya Alexandria" when she introduces herself to Koenig. Chalk it up to the accent, I guess.
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:42:16 -0800 From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com Subject: Alpher In a message dated 96-03-12 07:52:55 EST, you write: >>I listened carefully and it still sounds like Suzanne Roquette is saying >>"Tanya Alexandria" when she introduces herself to Koenig. Chalk it up to >>the accent, I guess. > >How do you like how Tony pronounces "Alpha" as something that sounds to me >like "Alpher"? > >Ron I always (playfully) argue with Brits that they do this (add an "R" sound if it's not there, take it away if it is) and they always disagree. I hear: Alan Caahtuh rather than Alan CaRteR, and Joan Collins on "Dynasty" used to call her daughter (daughtuh) AmandeR not Amanda, and then of course there's Doctuh Who, and writing on papuh, etc. Take cauh (care), Robert
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:29:36 -0800 From: mpmoncey@aec1.apgea.army4tag.mil Subject: Re: Alpher We from the Boston, Mass, area also talked that way. People outside of the area always don't understand what I am talking about because of my heavy Boston (Baustin) accent. What, you don't pahk the cah at Hahvahd Yahd? I also eat chowdah and con on the cob with the pastah at the pahty. Yes, that's how I talk! Serious! Michael Moncey
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:00:22 -0800 From: Claudia Coles (ccoles@dcez.dcez4tag.com) Subject: Let Me Tell Ya 'bout Space Women, Son - :) (slightly off-topic) > Just watched "Breakaway" for the first time in 21 years and it STILL bugs me > that when the moon is leaving Earth's orbit Helena is pinned to the floor in > Main Mission but her hair is still curled and obviously not affected by > gravity at all. Robert, let me tell you somethin' 'bout us women and our hair. We can go through an earthquake, we can go through floods, we can even go through a monsoon. We can get all types of injuries from all types of disasters. But the one thing that's GOT to stay in tact is the hair! <Zorro SNAP!> And be it far from us that our make-up should get messed up too - BIG :) I have to tell you a true story about what happened to Nichelle Nichols, Lt. Uhura of Star Trek, when she got into a car accident one day. Better yet, let me let William Shatner and Nichelle Nichols tell it to you in their own words. Here is an excerpt from the book "Star Trek Memories" by William Shatner with Chris Kreski: [Beginning of Excerpt] [Nichelle Nichols] At the time I was driving this old car, and on my second day on the job, I actually had an accident on the way to the studio. And I ended up with a big split lip, a busted knee and a bruised right ankle. At the scene of the accident, I had no makeup on, and my hair was in curlers and falling all down into my face, I had blood coming out of my mouth, so that when the cops called the studio and told them that I'd been in an accident, I freaked. Not so much because I was embarrassed to have been in an accident, but because I was new on the job, insecure and embarrassed to be seen looking as unkempt as I appeared. Now the studio tells the cops that they'll send someone out to get me, and I take the opportunity to hop into the back seat of my smashed car and pull myself together. There was no way I was going to miss the day's shooting. Luckily, I had planned on going out after work that evening. I had a dinner date, and so I had my big beautiful tan bag with me, which was filled with my makeup and hair stuff, and brushes and combs and perfume, you name it. [William Shatner] While Nichelle is in the back seat primping, the paramedics come racing in, with sirens blaring and red lights flashing. They then sprint out of their van yelling. "Where is she? WHERE IS SHE? Where is the injured party?" The policeman in charge of the accident scene now points over at Nichelle's rather crumpled car and says, "She's in the back seat, and she's bleeding out of her mouth." So now, while visions of massive internal injuries and severe hemorrhaging dance in their heads, the paramedics race toward what's left of this car thinking, "Oh this poor woman, she MUST be dead." However, by the time they get over to Nichelle, she's finished making herself presentable, and in trying to appear capable of going back to work, she's now standing next to a crushed left fender and trying her best to smile. [Nichelle Nichols] "Hi, guys," I said to them, and they were like, "Not now, lady, there's a severely injured woman in the back of this car!" I literally had to convince them that I was the *severly injured woman* they were looking for. [end of excerpt] [Accompanying this excerpt from the book is Nichelle Nichols in a publicity photograph with William Shatner...you'd almost never known she was in an accident before the shooting - Claudia] So you see Robert, no matter what you say about why Helena's hair stays in place amidst utter catastrophe, always remember, with us women, the hair and the makeup will always prevail! - :) :) :) > I listened carefully and it still sounds like Suzanne Roquette is saying > "Tanya Alexandria" when she introduces herself to Koenig. Chalk it up to the > accent, I guess. You know something...have you ever wondered if our "hearing" has an accent? I mean, we're always blaming our speech..what about the hearing? Well, it was just a thought anyway - Big :) respectfully submitted, your fellow Alphan, Claudia C.O. - Moonbase Alpha (more) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Excerpt of Nichelle Nichols car accident taken from the book: "Star Trek Memories" William Shatner with Chris Kreski Harper Collins Publishers 1993 First Edition ISBN 0-06-017734-9 $22.00 - USA (Although, I got it a Caldor/Wal-Mart/K-Martish store for $5.98 w/tax) $26.75 - CANADA
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:39:55 -0800 From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com Subject: Re: Let Me Tell Ya 'bout Space Women, Son - :) (slightly off-topic) Claudia: Do you think this is why we NEVER (to my knowledge) saw any female Eagle pilots? KOENIG: Eagle12, Alpha's under attack! Cut all checks! Lift off! FEMALE EAGLE PILOT: Uh, can it wait a minute, Commander? My nails aren't quite dry. <Two Zorro SNAPS! and a nuckle crack.> Robert