Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 06:41:37 -0800
From: Nemo66@aol4tag.com
Subject: Re: The ultimate Eagle blueprints from Italy
Regarding the Eagle blueprints from Roberto in Italy. I have seen the
quality of his work and all I can say is if you possibly can get these than
do it! The detail and quality are all pro standard. You won't be
disappointed!
Mike Prendergast
nemo66@aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:01:29 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Re: I'm really sooorryyy!!!!
In a message dated 96-02-20 17:15:44 EST, Roberto Baldassari
(baldas@mbox.vol.it) writes:
>I'm so sorry ! Belive me. To fill your coputers with bunches of large email
>files was the last think I wanted to do.
>All I've tryed to do was to show you my blueprints. "Mea Culpa !" (that's
>Latin, an acient language we used to speak here a couple of thousands years
>ago)
>
>I just received a telling-off from Mr. "nick@masterpiece.com". Sorry Nick.
>by the way what is a "dweep" ? I couldn't find that word in my
>English-Italian Dictionary. I hope it is nothing too hard, I'm a very
>sensible boy.
>
>I will never send anything more till someone will ask me to and will tell
>me how to send it the right way. (I'using a Mac and Eudora Light software).
>
>Ciao !
>
>Roberto
To All of Us:
I find it extremely irksome and offensive that Roberto was put in a position
in which he felt he had to write the above message to us today. (Though I
must say I admired the way he kept his cool humor throughout -- the sign of a
true gentleman.)
Where does anyone on this list get off telling anyone else what they can and
can’t post?
How difficult is it for any of us to simply delete the messages we’re not
interested in. It’s not like this wasn’t 1999 related, and I for one was
happy to go through whatever it took to see the JPG files eventually.
This also applies to posts regarding auctions and subsequent auction updates.
Perhaps some of us don’t want to see those subsequent posts, but for others
it’s fun to be able to monitor the bidding and some of us may have just
subscribed to this list and a "subsequent" post to us is (for them) an
"initial" (and possibly the only) post. I know I have not only added to my
collection because of these posts but have also learned more about what’s
available out there, as well as going rates for things. Again, please simply
hit the delete key if you’re not interested. Others of us are.
In addition, I think it would be wise for all of us to remember that this is
an international group of people here with different cultural norms and
values, and that we should all try to be as diplomatic as possible and to
give people the benefit of the boubt if possible. Didn't someone wise once
say that If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem?
As for nick@masterpiece.com calling Roberto what I assume must have been a
"dweeb," I am both appalled and disgusted. I expect I’ll be getting a "Fuck
You" message in my e-mail, but that’s the price I pay for believing in
freedom of speech and being willing to stand up for my principles, and above
all, in my belief that we should all treat others the way we wish to be
treated. It is my hope that in view of nternational relations and the
"honor" of the list members, nick@masterpiece.com will rethink his position
and perhaps offer Roberto an apology. He is, after all, something akin to a
guest here with us, is he not? Or is he a member?
Having only joined this list recently, I remember all too well Nick Sayer’s
admonition not to flame on this list. I would hope that that would carry
over to personal e-mails as well.
While Roberto has posted, I believe, three messages regarding the JPG files,
all that’s been required of Nick and his ilk is to hit the delete key THREE
INDIVIDUAL TIMES. Not too difficult I would say, especially in light of what
we would all have if this eventually worked.
Roberto, for my part, and for what it’s worth, I wish to express regret that
this has happened. Please don’t judge us all by the actions of a few.
Robert
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:49:43 -0800
From: "Kenneth J. Weatherwax" (kenw@sierra44cc.com)
Subject: Re: I'm really sooorryyy!!!!
Robert, CHILL. You offend. You overreact.
1. Common sense. Calling someone a dweeb is not a crime. Calling someone a
"dweep" is hilarious.
2. Practicalities. What Nick was doubtless objecting to was the needless
waste of bandwidth all over the world, with corresponding slowness of web. If
a pleasant Italian accidentally steps on my shoe, I will not castigate him.
But I will ask him not to do it again, because his carelessness impacts
others. And if he weighs 400#, I may exclaim a word or two which I would not
normally say.
3. Free speech. I would object to pedophilia posted on this newsgroup, and
would tell posters to stop posting thereof, and not feel censorious at all.
Speaking of free speech, recall Robert Mapplethorpe? (Egad - yet another
Robert.) Recall "Piss in Christ?" I would support his right to display that
in a Cincinnati museum, on freedom-of-expression grounds - the same way I
support Nick's right to say what he said - on freedom-of-expression grounds.
Christ can handle Mapplethorpe. Roberto can handle Nick. No harm, no foul.
4. Ridiculous. Please stop standing up for your principles so vocally. As
John Wayne told a reluctant and taciturn ally in RIO BRAVO, "[the others]
talked, but you actually helped out." (Did you know that's one of Quentin
Tarantino's faves, BTW?)
5. And as for you, Roberto, you silly wop, you bumbling eytie - bravo,
fellow wop! A very good mea culpa. If we all had your sense of humor, the
Net would be a paradise on silicon. O:)
--
-KW (25% eytie)
kenw@sierracc.com
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:08:56 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Re: I'm really sooorryyy!!!!
Ken:
Thanks for telling me in essence that we should all react as you do and that
if it doesn't offend you it shouldn't offend anyone else. Your sensitivity
to the situation really gives one hope for the future.
Robert
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 06:29:15 -0800
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: Fascinating !
Fascinating ! There is only one word I can find in my modest English
vocabulary to comment what I've unchained: Fascinating. (He said arching
his brow).
I'm new to the Internet but I love it.
I'd like to thank everybody for support me in this difficult circumstance
(I'm kidding) and especially for "decoding" my poor English (I'm not
kidding now)
I'd like to salute Mr. "nick@masterpiece.com" for accepting my apologize
and I respect Kenneth for his words about freedom of speech. (BTW I like
Mapplethorpe and Tarantino too)
I think it's all right now. Lets talk about our beloved S1999 !
I've sent my pictures to Ande Tucker and he will put them up on his web
page as soon as possible. If you wish you can download them and if you like
them you can tell me and I'll add your name to the list I'm making. If I'll
find a certain number of request I'll be happy to print the now mythical
"Ultimate Eagle Blueprints from Italy" on high quality paper and sell them
to you as soon as possible.
Buona giornata a tutti ! (That's Italian for "Have a good day", W.Chris ask
me to translate)
Roberto
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:26:09 -0800
From: Van A Plexico (plexiva@mail.auburn4tag.edu)
Subject: Re: I'm really sooorryyy!!!!
On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Roberto Baldassari wrote:
>
> I just received a telling-off from Mr. "nick@masterpiece.com".
You too, huh??
Who died and made him...aw, forget it. ;)
--Van
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:44:57 -0800
From: a_tucker@delta44net.com (Ande Tucker)
Subject: Re: the blueprints
>Hmm, I guess the title says it all. Ande, could you please contact
>Roberto and talk to him, Mac-user-to-Mac-user? ;-) It would probably
>be best if you *can* get the JPEGs from him and put them on your web
>site, so people who have trouble with large e-mails don't have to be
>inconvenienced.
>
>Raja Thiagarajan
The .JPGs are up, I've just got to make a link to them. Hopefully I should
have it done by the end of the day, work permitting. The URL is
http://www.deltanet.com/users/a_tucker/1999.html
BTW, the JPGs are great!
While I do have a minute to dash this off, if anybody wants to submit
feedback about this months FAQ, I'd be happy to hear from you. I want to
try and do more for next months. I've only heard from two people this
month, so comments, suggestions etc - send 'em my way. If you're waiting
for personal email from me, I'm about 10 months behind, but slowly wading
through it....
Ande
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 04:26:10 -0800
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: Eagle Blueprints Update
dear alphans,
Here is a list of people who asked to be included in an order for a printed
set of my Eagle Blueprints.
- Robert Ashley Ruiz (Sfcafeguy@aol.com)
San Francisco, California, USA
- Bill Greer (bgreer@tricon.net)
Johnson City, Tennessee, USA
- Washington C. Garcia" (wccg@pusit.admu.edu.ph)
- James Laursen (74344.475@compuserve.com)
Four guys !! Hum, C'mon folks. You know I can't go to my skilful, Italian
typographer asking him to print only four skimpy copies of this wonderful
piece of art !
If you all are agreed I'll now reduce my offer to the cut-away illustration
only.
My Eagle blueprints now consists of one (1) 40cm x 70cm (15.7 x 27.5
inches) sheet with a 3D cut-away view of the Eagle including keys and
specifications.
The illustration is made with Adobe Dimensions and Adobe Illustrator
software and the final prints (black and white on high quality coated
paper) will be extremely detailed (2540dpi). The price for the poster is
now 10 U.S. dollars plus packaging and shipping costs.
I need at least 20 requests for it in order to print it, so please let me know.
You can find a sample of my Cut-away Eagle blueprint in the Ande Tucker web
page: http://www.deltanet.com/users/a_tucker/1999.html.
Best regards
Roberto Baldassari
Roberto(Spooky)Baldassari
Mantova - Italy - Europe
Earth - Sol System
Alpha Quadrant - Milky Way
baldas@mbox.vol.it
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:24:33 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Roberto's Eagle Drawings
Wow!
I just checked out Roberto's Eagle drawings at:
http://www.deltanet.com/users/a_tucker/FM12.html
They are WONDERFUL! and definitely superior to the Starlog drawings. Most
impressed Roberto! Congratulations on your fine work.
With Allen's order bringing the total to 5, I increase my order to three sets
of full copies, bringing the total orders to this point to 7 (only 13 more to
go).
If anybody hasn't checked out the drawings yet, they are EXCELLENT and well
worth your time. (Also loved the inclusion of the moonbuggy, Roberto.)
And Roberto, maybe people's budgets are just tight right now. Have you also
considered offering the drawings to the Gerry Anderson lists (and possibly
even Star Trek lists)? I would love to see this get up to a full 20 orders
so that I can add a copy of the full set to my collection.
Eagerly anticipating taking possession.
Robert
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:37:27 -0800
From: jquimby@utmmg.med.uth.tmc4tag.edu (Jeanette Quimby)
Subject: Roberto's Blueprints
Just another pat on the back for Roberto! I wasn't really that up on
blueprints or wanting to build my own model, but I must say his prints are
definitely out of this world! I'm a fanfiction devotee, but add my name to
the list of buyers for blueprints (I can add it to my other S1999 related
stuff).
Folks, after the frustration of the e-mail attachments, you really need to
view these to appreciate his efforts and his kindness in wanting to share
them with us. They are amazing.
Hey Roberto, are you sure you didn't work for ITC/Anderson back in the 70's!
{BG}.
Jeanette Quimby
Houston TX
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:43:08 -0800
From: MikeCombs@aol4tag.com
Subject: Re: Eagle Blueprints Update
In a message dated 96-02-26 07:26:14 EST, baldas@mbox.vol.it (Roberto
Baldassari) writes:
>If you all are agreed I'll now reduce my offer to the cut-away illustration
>only.
You can put me down for the original offer.
Mike Combs
Midland, TX
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:03:52 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Roberto's Blueprints
Cool!
With Jeanette Quimby’s, Mike Combs’, and Allen Michael Retodo’s orders we are
now up to nine (of 20) orders for Roberto’s Eagle drawings (full sets).
Thank you Jeanette, Mike, and Allen, and also Bill Greer, Washington C.
Garcia, and James Laursen.
To the United States fans, if the added cost of getting your US dollars
transferred to Italian currency is an issue for anyone, perhaps Roberto could
send all drawings to one of us in one order and then that person could
redistribute, dropping this (at least at my bank) $10 charge to next to
nothing rather than (potentially) a $10 charge for each of us on top of the
cost of these wonderful drawings.
Anyone interested in such an idea, please contact me.
Robert
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:26:05 -0800
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: EAGLE BLUEPRINTS
Dear Friends,
The number of 20 requests required for printing and the price of $10 U.S.
dollars (or equivalent) in my previous message was intended for the single
poster of the cut-away Eagle alone.
It seems clear to me at this point that most of you would prefer to receive
the full four-sheet set as opposed to the single sheet set (the Eagle
cutaway).
There is a point I need to make clear, however. The costs involved in
printing four different sheets are far greater than those for printing one
sheet alone. Consequently, I will need at least 30 requests for the full set
to be printed, and the price for the full set will need to be $20 U.S.
dollars (or equivalent).
My full Eagle Blueprints set (four 15.7 x 27.5 inches sheets) includes:
Sheet 1: External views of the Eagle (profile, top, front and rear)
Sheets 2-3: Internal views of the Eagle (cutaway profiles both port and
starboard, cutaway plan, cutaway elevation views both aft POV and prow POV
of command module, access corridor, recon pod and aft section)
Sheet 4: Comprehensive cutaway 3D rendition of the Eagle (the one in the two
JPEG files at Ande's web page).
Text and technical specifications appear throughout all four sheets.
To avoid misunderstandings, please specify in your request that you want to
order the full set (4 sheets) for $20 U.S. (or equivalent); and for those of
you who already did a request please check for my updates (the next of which
will be sent to the list on Monday, March 4, 1996).
Thank you all for your interest in my drawings and for placing your orders.
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:52:00 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Re: Eagle Blueprints Update
Hi Roberto:
After reading your update I noticed that you have me down for one set of your
drawings when I actually wish to purchase three sets. If I count correctly,
this brings the total up to 25 orders. If necessary (and everyone is
willing) can you have 25 sets printed for $24 each rather than 30 sets at $20
each?
Either way, these two totals combined equal $600.
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:39:02 -0800
From: jsullivan@internet.kronos4tag.com
Subject: Re: Blueprints
I put one order in today but forgot to send it to the list as well as
Roberto.
So, we now have at least 30, right?
- Jim -
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Blueprints
Author: "Stephen M. Arenburg" at INTERNET
Date: 3/4/96 12:59 PM
With my order for a set we only need 1 more set!
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:53:57 -0800
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: Eagle Blueprints: The Final Update
My Fellow Alphans:
Thank you all for your overwhelming response to my drawings and for placing
your orders!
I am happy to report that the minimum number of orders required to make this
undertaking viable has been reached and exceeded (though additional orders
may still be placed until further notice). Because your response has been so
good, I have been able to reduce the price of the full set of drawings to
25,000 Italian lire (or the approximate equivalent of 16 US dollars/10.5
English pounds).
My plan now is to check all my blueprints files this weekend to ensure the
best copies possible. Next week I will make an e-mail announcement to the
list letting everyone know that the drawings are being sent to my skillful
Italian printer.
Please consider your previous posts regarding your orders as statements of
your intention to purchase. And now, if you please, kindly e-mail me once
again that you would like to order and include all of your mailing
information in this e-mail.
Your payment (25,000 lire in Italian funds) has to be made with an International
Postal Money Order only.
What follows is a breakdown of expenses you must consider when making
payment:
- Each Set of Eagle Drawings: L.25,000 (twenty-five thousand lire)
(about $16.00 US/10.5 UK pounds)
- Shipping costs:
for one set L.10,000 (ten thousand lire)
(about $6.50 US/4.2 UK pounds)
for each additional set L. 5,000 (five thousand lire)
(about $3.25 US/2.1 UK pounds)
All orders (in Italian funds) must be payable to:
ROBERTO BALDASSARI
Piazza C. D'Arco, 6/C
46100 - MANTOVA - Italy
All orders will be shipped as soon as possible after payment is received.
For those of you who may still wish to place orders, please contact me at
baldas@mbox.vol.it.
After I receive your payment I will ship your order, and I will let each of
you know individually via e-mail that your order has been shipped. Please be
patient. My experience in ordering from abroad is one of long wait times.
Thank you all. I can't believe that a project I worked on from when I was a
kid has joined people from all over the world. I love the Internet!
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 13:15:04 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: International Money Orders Available at Your Local U.S. Post Office
To All the Native Soil Americans on the List:
I called the post office and they said the price for an International Money
Order converting U.S. funds to Italian is $7.50.
Again, some of you may want to consider combining your orders to divide this
fee, then whoever receives the packages can redistribute once in the U.S.
Robert
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:46:18 -0800
From: jquimby@utmmg.med.uth.tmc4tag.edu (Jeanette Quimby)
Subject: Blueprints and Intl Money Orders
Okay folks,
If it's $10 or less for the Intl Money Order (which isn't much), consider on
your part what you are receiving. As noted, some folks have had problems
obtaining blue prints to begin with (some haven't). You know the quality of
the artwork is outstanding.
Now if the cost of the money ordered doubled the original price of the
order, I could see some balking at the charge and would go with a group
money order. But $10 or less in addition to the already reasonable cost?
No, I'm not rich myself (I currently work one full time job in addition to
two other jobs at home), but this does not seem unreasonable.
I would do what Roberto is doing if someone from overseas was purchasing
something from me. I would request that they pay me in "American dollars" -
wouldn't you (or whatever currency may be common for your country)?
Also, if you think about it - if you do a group money order - then you will
need to add a few more dollars for the sole who is collecting the money to
pay the postage to ship you your blueprints.
If I am correct people who sell fanfiction, request payment in American
dollars (please correct me if I am wrong for those who have ordered from
Terry or George).
So folks, we're not talking a mint here. If you really want the blueprints
- just stop drinking a few cups of coffee for a couple of weeks or a few Dr.
Peppers and you'll have saved the money to pay for the order (Just don't
come around me when you go into caffeine withdrawal, as I will be having the
shakes myself from no DP ).
Jeanette Quimby
Houston, Texas
P.S.
No, I'm not getting a cut for posting this supportive message. I'm only
trying to make sure that there are still enough orders, so I can order my
copies {g}.
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 15:26:17 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Getting Rid of that $7.50 IMO Charge.
To All the Native Soil Americans on the List:
I've been through so many payment possibilities with Roberto that I'm
starting to lose track and I'm a little braindead at this point. In my
previous message I suggested that you may want to group up and order together
and then someone can redistribute packages once in the U.S.
It occurs to me that the redistribution process isn't necessary since Roberto
is sending them out on a charge per copy basis anyway, but you may still want
to group up and send money to designated order people.
These people would take your checks, convert the group's total on one IMO
(incurring one [rather than several] $7.50 charge[s]), and then this person
would forward the International Money Order to Roberto and just state that it
covers payment for the various individuals involved.
Depending on how trusting you are (he says, while considering just how far he
can go on $600), I would be willing to collect the checks, wait for them to
clear the bank, convert them to lire on one IMO, and then send them on to
Roberto with a list of who they cover. To make this as easy as possible, I
personally will pay the $7.50 charge and the postage to Roberto so that all
you have to pay for are the plans and the shipping costs, and a postage stamp
to send your checks to me. Easier, no?
Some of you have expressed interest in this idea in the last couple of days.
If you expressed interest, then yes I'm willing to do it, as long as you are
in the U.S. If others of you in the U.S. are interested as well, please get
back to me immediately and I'll provide mailing info on where you should send
your checks.
As for other matters, I called the post office again and they confirmed the
price for an International Money Order converting U.S. funds to Italian is
$7.50 regardless of where you live in the U.S. so if your post office gives
you a problem, give them a problem back. If a local branch doesn't know, ask
the number of a main branch.
Hope this offer helps to simplify what has proven to be a very complicated
endeavor.
Robert
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:53:23 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Operation Plans-To-Us
My Fellow American Alphans:
I called my bank today regarding the conversion rate for Italian lire. The
rate today is .0006647 dollars to one lire. The conversion works thusly:
.0006647 x 35,000 = $23.26
.0006647 x 65,000 = $43.21
.0006647 x 95,000 = $63.15
Hence, if you order one set, your TOTAL cost (shipping and handling) is
$23.26. For two orders your TOTAL cost is $43.21. For three orders your
TOTAL cost is $63.15.
Again, if you want to forward your money to me to avoid an IMO charge, let me
know as soon as possible, and I'll take care of the IMO and getting it to
Roberto.
Thanks,
Robert
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:26:02 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: International Money Orders
Hi All:
Learned some interesting info at the Post Office today that I thought I would
share.
IMOs from the U.S. Postal Service get sent from your local branch office to
an office in St. Louis to be processed. They can take about two weeks to
clear this process before they get routed on to their final destinaion. Cost
is $7.50.
IMOs from my bank, Bank of America, (and perhaps yours) can be ordered over
the phone, will be automatically debited from your account, and the check
will show up in your mail a few days later. Cost is $10.
Perhaps more importantly, the bank will help you with the conversion amount;
the U.S. Postal Service will not.
I'm sure you've all figured out which route I'm going with the group IMO for
Roberto's plans.
Just wanted to share the information in case you end up ordering overseas in
the future.
And congratulations to Ggreg Perry! Ggreg's is the first actual check I've
received toward Operation Plans-to-Us.
Robert
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:17:48 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Final Boarding Call to Catch Your Eagle
Hi All:
Since checks are starting to arrive, I think it only fair that I not hold up
those who sent early by continuing to make Operation Plans-To-Us available.
For this reason, I will only continue to accept requests to join us in this
group endeavor for the next two days. On Thursday, 3/14/96 at midnight, the
Eagle door (and this opportunity) closes.
One week later, on Friday 3/22/96 (or earlier, depending on if all the checks
come in) the Eagle touches down at Bank of America (also known as Bank of
Arrogance, Bank of Apartheid, etc.) and the checks are deposited. If
anyone's check is not in my hands by Friday, 3/22/96, I will notify them by
e-mail that I didn't receive the check by the deadline and that they need to
make other arrangements. If checks do show up after Friday, they will be
torn in half and returned to their owners.
Call me crazy, but I trust all of you and I'm cashing the checks and
purchasing the IMO on Friday 3/22/96 (i.e., not waiting for the checks to
clear). By Wednesday of the following week, I expect to have the IMO in my
mailbox and I will send it off to Roberto in Italy that day.
The list below is all confirmed interested parties as of this morning.
Again, if I've forgotten anyone, please let me know.
Robert
_________________________________
sfcafeguy@aol.com (Robert Ashley Ruiz)
wccg@pusit.admu.edu.ph (Washington C. Garcia)
ndver@well.com (Allen Michael Retodo)
ggreg@nwu.edu (Ggreg Perry)
jquimby@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu (Jeanette Quimby)
nemo66@aol.com (Mike Prendergast)
ay514@yfn.ysu.edu (Michael A. Perry)
sthiagar@indiana.edu (Raja Thiagarajan)
severts@ccmgate.interplay.com (Everts Scott)
mdecker@mail.orion.org (Michael Decker)
PatriEmb@aol.com (Pat Embury)
ulcsa@eskimo.com (Brian Aase)
tom@sp32.com (Tom Konich)
connole@lvs-emh.lvs.loral.com (Ray Connole)
lobbj@gunet.georgetown.edu (Jenny Lobb)
74344.475@compuserve.com (James Laursen)
mskent@ucdavis.edu (Michael Kent)
dwelle@online.dct.com (David Welle)
bdillahu@mindspring.com (Bruce C. Dillahunty)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:39:36 -0800
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: BLUEPRINTS UPDATE
Dear Fellow Al-FANS:
I am happy to report that the files containing my drawings are now in the
capacious hands of my skillful Italian printer.
After I receive your payment I will ship your order, and I will let each of
you know individually via e-mail that your order has been shipped. Please
be patient. My experience in ordering from abroad is one of long wait
times but also one of nice surprises too.
For those of you who may still wish to place orders, please contact me at
baldas@mbox.vol.it. You can find a sample of one of my drawing in the Ande
Tucker's web page at:
http://www.deltanet.com/users/a_tucker/FM12.html
This is the list of people who had ordered my drawing directly to
me via International Postal Money Order:
Allen R. Barnella
barnella@cris.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Bill Greer
bgreer@tricon.net
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Carine Wils
wils@uia.ua.ac.be
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Chanathip Trivuth
chanatip@loxinfo.co.th
n. of copies: 3
L. 95,000 ($63.15)
Chuck A. Eilerman
chucke@lexis-nexis.com
n. of copies: 2
L. 65,000 ($43.21)
Dennis Campbell
GT3083@Siucvmb.Siu.Edu
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Horst Noll
HNoll@t-online.de
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
John Fleming
JFlmgCNP@CapitalNet.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Kenneth Weatherwax
kenw@sierracc.co
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Phillip C. Merkel
captphil@unix.asb.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Phillip S. Wright
pswright@innotts.co.uk
n. of copies: 2
L. 65,000 ($43.21)
Rick Harris RickHarris@gnn.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Roberto Coli
mc7741@mclink.it
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Stephen M. Arenburg
arenburg@phobos.astro.uwo.ca
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
This one is the list of people who had ordered my drawing through
Robert Ruiz in one single International Postal Money Order:
Allen Michael Retodo
ndver@WELL.COM
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Brian Aase
ulcsa@eskimo.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Bruce C. Dillahunty
bdillahu@mindspring.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
David Welle
dwelle@online.dct.com
Ggreg Perry
ggperry@merle.acns.nwu.edu
n. of copies: 2
L. 65,000 ($43.21)
James Laursen
74344.475@compuserve.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Jeanette Quimby
jquimby@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Jenny Lobb lobb
j@gunet.georgetown.edu
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Michael Decker
mdecker@mail.orion.org
n. of copies: 2
L. 65,000 ($43.21)
Michael Perry
ay514@yfn.ysu.edu
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Michael S. Kent
mskent@ucdavis.edu
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Mike Prendergast
nemo66@aol.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Pat Embury
PatriEmb@aol.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Raja Thiagarajan
sthiagar@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
n. of copies: 2
L. 65,000 ($43.21)
Raymond J. Connole
connole@lvs-emh.lvs.loral.com
Robert Ruiz
Sfcafeguy@aol.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Scott Everts
severts@interplay.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Thomas G. Konich Jr
tom@sp32.com
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
Washington C. Garcia
wccg@pusit.admu.edu.ph
n. of copies: 1
L. 35,000 ($23.26)
This last one is the list of people who doesn't confirmed nor canceled
their orders.
If you like, you can still place your orders. Please contact me at
baldas@mbox.vol.it.
jsullivan@internet.kronos.com
Beth Schoonmaker
BSchoon146@aol.com
Franklin H. Holcomb
holcomb@bambi.cecer.army.mil)
Mark Miller
mmiller@intersource.com
Mike Combs
MikeCombs@aol.com
Sean Campbell
whytwolf@spots.ab.ca
Stephen Pritchard
ren@actrix.gen.nz
Thank you all for your interest in my drawings and for placing your orders.
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 05:32:21 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
This is it. You have until tonight (Thursday) at midnight to join us on the
group (free to you) IMO for Roberto's blueprints. Once again, if I've
forgotten anyone below, please let me know.
Those of you who are listed below but for whom I haven't received a check are
still okay as long as I receive your check by Friday, March 22, 1996 (the day
I send the IMO to Roberto). If your check arrives after 3/22/96 it will be
returned to you and you will be notified immediately via e-mail so that you
can make other arrangements.
If all the checks come in before 3/22/96, they will go out that much sooner.
FYI, total we saved in individual IMOs comes to $142.50 (postal money order)
or $190 (bank money order) (calculated at 19 people saving $7.50 [postal] or
$10.00 [bank] each).
Thanks,
Robert
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:47:44 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Operation Plans-To-Us
Hi All:
This is everyone who got their requests to join us on the group IMO in by
midnight last night. Checks already received as of today's mail are noted
below. Thank you all for the nice notes you have included; and for those of
you who rounded your orders up to an even $25 (Jeanette, Quimby, Michael
Prendergast, and Michael Kent), thank you. The extra will go to Roberto to
help with any currency fluctuations. What a nice group of people you all
are!
Robert
________________________________________________
sfcafeguy@aol.com (Robert Ashley Ruiz) - CHECK RECEIVED
wccg@pusit.admu.edu.ph (Washington C. Garcia)
ndver@well.com (Allen Michael Retodo)
ggreg@nwu.edu (Ggreg Perry) - CHECK RECEIVED
jquimby@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu (Jeanette Quimby) - CHECK RECEIVED
nemo66@aol.com (Mike Prendergast) - CHECK RECEIVED
ay514@yfn.ysu.edu (Michael A. Perry)
sthiagar@indiana.edu (Raja Thiagarajan)
severts@interplay.com (Scott Everts) - CHECK RECEIVED
mdecker@mail.orion.org (Michael Decker)
PatriEmb@aol.com (Patricia Embury) - CHECK RECEIVED
ulcsa@eskimo.com (Brian Aase) - CHECK RECEIVED
tom@sp32.com (Tom Konich)
connole@lvs-emh.lvs.loral.com (Ray Connole)
lobbj@gunet.georgetown.edu (Jenny Lobb) - CHECK RECEIVED
mskent@ucdavis.edu (Michael Kent) - CHECK RECEIVED
dwelle@online.dct.com (David Welle)
bdillahu@mindspring.com (Bruce C. Dillahunty)
RickHarris@gnn.com (Rick Harris)
BSchoon146@aol.com (Beth Schoonmaker)
GT3083@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU (Dennis Campbell)
marz@jax-inter.net (Alexandro Ojeda)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 03:45:01 -0800
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: The Making of My Blueprints
Hi to all,
Fellow Alphans Chanathip Trivuth and Allen Barnella ask me to share with
all of you in the mailing list how I went about creating the Eagle
drawings.
I'll try to tell you about the making of my drawings with my bad English.
Hope you'll understand something.
I began thinking of accurate Eagle blueprints back in the '70s when I was
15 year old. I started my research using frames enlargement prints from
some Italian S1999 photo-books. But I needed more information.
In the '80s I ordered a copy of the "Alpha Moonbase Technical Notebook"
hoping to get some more, finding that there wasn't any Eagle drawing in it
!!!
I started a drawing similar to the one in the JPG files you've seen, using
traditional techniques on paper. But it was a frustrating work because of
the lack of details. I wanted to do my drawing as faithful as possible to
the original models and interior sets.
Then in 1984 I came across the Eagle blueprints by Philip Rae from a Gerry
Anderson magazine called S I G and I fund what I needed: some very good
plans made using the actual, original 44" model for reference !
What I needed at that moment was some interior details not shown in the
photographs I had.
At the end of the '80s Italian TV did a re-run of the first season of the
show and I recorded all 24 episodes on VHS, adding a lot of information for
my project. Not much time later I came across a shareware computer program
on S1999, a sort of very rough multimedia version of the Starlog Technical
Notebook with an extra section dedicated to the Eagles, with an interesting
cutaway plan (I guess it was taken from the Starlog #7 Eagle Blueprints).
In that time I also started using a computer in my work as a graphic
designer finding the perfect tool for my so called "Ultimate Eagle
blueprints".
First of all I've made the external and internal views of the Eagle (top,
profiles, front, rear and cross sections) in 'Adobe Illustrator' using all
the reference material I collected during the years.
Illustrator is a vector-based graphics Program that enables to produce high
quality drawing that are resolution independent in files that are very
small in terms of HD space required.
Then I imported the profile and top views in 'Adobe Dimensions' and I've
build a simple 3D model (very simple indeed).
'Dimensions' is a nice software, very user friendly. It allows you to make
3D object out of elements created with 'Illustrator'. I choose the right
point of view and the right focal length (not too short to avoid
distortions).
I never thought to build the whole Eagle as a 3D model. I simply used that
rough model as a reference from which I've arranged the various parts from
the 2D illustrator files, in the 3D space, sometimes extruding or turning
them, other times simply put them on the 3D surfaces as details (control
panels, moonbase logo, ect.).
When I was satisfied with the basic 3D portion of the spacecraft I exported
it back to the Illustrator format.
Actually most of the work was made in Illustrator. As long as I got the
right perspective I simply refined that part right there in Illustrator.
Actually the Eagle is quite simple to draw. The only difficult part was the
cockpit, because it is a pretty complex shape. For that I've made a series
of sections using the various 2D views. Then I put those sections in the 3D
space and I've used the resulting basic outline as a reference from which
build the actual cockpit in Illustrator.
Talking about the problems I found, there were a few. Some of the interiors
didn't match with the exteriors. I guess (SFX supervisor) Brian Johnson and
(production designer) Keith Wilson didn't talk each other so often.
For example: the service pod in the model is longer than the interior set.
I had to include things or extend others in prder to fill the extra space.
But the bigger problem was the cockpit. If you look at the show there are
some model shots where you can see the head of the pilots from the two
triangular viewports.
Well it is physically impossible because their seats are below the line of
the floor and their heads cannot in no way reach the level of the windows
(Oh, if you are in a Modigliani painting maybe you can !).
I taken a little freedom here and there. I extended one half of the
corridor and aft sections on the sides, gaining same extra space for things
(toilet, galley, ect.) I also put two moonbuggies into the recon pod in two
lateral areas.
As you can see it took me several years to finish my old childish project.
And I think it's wonderful that now other people all over the world can
have these drawings and enjoy them.
I don't know if what I'm saying has any meaning to you. I hope so. It is
very hard to explain something in a language you don't know very well.
If you have any specific question I'll be happy to answer.
Best Regards
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 19:22:25 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Operation Plans-To-Us
Hi All:
These are all the checks I've received as of today's mail. Only seven more
needed.
Robert
__________________________
sfcafeguy@aol.com (Robert Ashley Ruiz) - CHECK RECEIVED
wccg@pusit.admu.edu.ph (Washington C. Garcia)
ndver@well.com (Allen Michael Retodo)
ggreg@nwu.edu (Ggreg Perry) - CHECK RECEIVED
jquimby@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu (Jeanette Quimby) - CHECK RECEIVED
nemo66@aol.com (Mike Prendergast) - CHECK RECEIVED
ay514@yfn.ysu.edu (Michael A. Perry)
sthiagar@indiana.edu (Raja Thiagarajan) - CHECK RECEIVED
severts@interplay.com (Scott Everts) - CHECK RECEIVED
mdecker@mail.orion.org (Michael Decker)
PatriEmb@aol.com (Patricia Embury) - CHECK RECEIVED
ulcsa@eskimo.com (Brian Aase) - CHECK RECEIVED
tom@sp32.com (Tom Konich) - CHECK RECEIVED
connole@lvs-emh.lvs.loral.com (Ray Connole) - CHECK RECEIVED
lobbj@gunet.georgetown.edu (Jenny Lobb) - CHECK RECEIVED
mskent@ucdavis.edu (Michael Kent) - CHECK RECEIVED
dwelle@online.dct.com (David Welle) - CHECK RECEIVED
bdillahu@mindspring.com (Bruce C. Dillahunty) - CHECK RECEIVED
RickHarris@gnn.com (Rick Harris)
BSchoon146@aol.com (Beth Schoonmaker)
GT3083@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU (Dennis Campbell)
marz@jax-inter.net (Alexandro Ojeda)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:22:52 -0800
From: "Allen R. Barnella" (barnella@cris4tag.com)
Subject: Re: The Making of My Blueprints
Roberto Baldassari wrote:
>
> I'll try to tell you about the making of my drawings with my bad
> English. Hope you'll understand something.
Roberto:
Thank you for the telling us about the making of your Blueprints, it
sounds as though it was quite an undertaking, and something that you
should be very proud of.
Also, don't worry about your English, it is very good. It's actually
better than a lot of Americans. 8)
Fly Like an Eagle,
Allen
barnella@concentric.net
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:34:54 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Operation Plans-to-Us
Hi All:
Just wanted everyone to know that I got the last of the checks as of today,
and that I'll be ordering the IMO tomorrow morning. I expect it will take
until about next Tuesday or Wednesday to get it from the bank (it gets
processed in L.A. and mailed to me in San Francisco), at which point I will
forward it on to Roberto in Italy by the speediest means available to us.
Roberto, tomorrow I'll let you know what the exact Italian lire amount comes
out to as soon as I know.
Thanks,
Robert
_________________________________
wccg@pusit.admu.edu.ph (Washington C. Garcia) - $23.26 RECEIVED
ndver@well.com (Allen Michael Retodo) - $23.26 RECEIVED
ggreg@nwu.edu (Ggreg Perry) - $43.21 RECEIVED
jquimby@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu (Jeanette Quimby) - $25.00 RECEIVED
nemo66@aol.com (Mike Prendergast) - $25.00 RECEIVED
ay514@yfn.ysu.edu (Michael A. Perry) - $25.00 RECEIVED
sthiagar@indiana.edu (Raja Thiagarajan) - $43.21 RECEIVED
severts@interplay.com (Scott Everts) - $23.26 RECEIVED
mdecker@mail.orion.org (Michael Decker) - $43.21 RECEIVED
PatriEmb@aol.com (Patricia Embury) - $23.26 RECEIVED
ulcsa@eskimo.com (Brian Aase) - $23.26 RECEIVED
tom@sp32.com (Tom Konich) - $23.26 RECEIVED
connole@lvs-emh.lvs.loral.com (Ray Connole) - $23.26 RECEIVED
lobbj@gunet.georgetown.edu (Jenny Lobb) - $23.26 RECEIVED
mskent@ucdavis.edu (Michael Kent) - $25.00 RECEIVED
dwelle@online.dct.com (David Welle) - $23.26 RECEIVED
bdillahu@mindspring.com (Bruce C. Dillahunty) - $23.26 RECEIVED
RickHarris@gnn.com (Rick Harris) - $23.26 RECEIVED
BSchoon146@aol.com (Beth Schoonmaker) - $25.00 RECEIVED
GT3083@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU (Dennis Campbell) - $25.00 RECEIVED
marz@jax-inter.net (Alexandro Ojeda) - $23.26 RECEIVED
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 03:35:29 -0800
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: EAGLE BLUE...PRINTED !!!
Hi fellow Alphans,
I'm proud to comunicate that the Eagle drawings are now printed on paper,
they can be touched now, and they look great !!!
On monday 25 I'll send the first two orders to Philip and Horst, the two
European fellows from which I've already received the money.
Any other remaining order will be shipped after payment is received.
Have a nice week-end.
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:58:03 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Operation Plans to Us - Final Message
Hi All:
I got the IMO from the bank and sent it out to Roberto in Italy this morning.
It should take about a week to get to him (if letters to England are any
indication).
I'm looking forward to seeing the full set of drawings, and I just want to
thank you all once more for the kind letters you included with your payments.
Anxiously awaiting,
Robert
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 06:07:10 -0800
From: pswright@innotts4tag.co.uk (Phillip S Wright)
Subject: Roberto's Blueprints...
Hi all
My sets of blueprints from Roberto arrived today, and to say the least they are
very impressive.
I have mailed Roberto with a personal thank you, but thought I would also
like to
congratulate him on his fine work publically via the group.
cheers
Phill
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 07:07:39 -0800
From: HNoll@t-online4tag.de (Hans Noll)
Subject: Eagle Blueprints
Hello Robert !
Today (Sat, 03-30-96) I received your blueprints and I must say, they are great.
Thank you, that you made your excellent work available to everybody interested.
Horst Noll
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 03:34:40 -0800
From: Chanathip Trivuth (chanatip@loxinfo4tag.co.th)
Subject: Roberto Blueprint
Hi Alphan,
I received The Ultimate Eagle Blueprints from Roberto today. I'd like to
tell all who order his blueprint will not upset with his work. The blueprints
are all wonderful, superb detail, good quality and really look great and
beautiful. You will be very proud to have his blueprint in your collection.
And I would like to thank you all of you that make this project can be done
and come true in the real world.
Chanathip Trivuth
System Engineer - Moonbase Alpha
chanatip@loxinfo.co.th
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 05:33:53 -0800
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: Eagle Blueprints & Postal Services
God bless the postal services all over the world !
Form Italy to Germany = 4 days
>From Italy to England = 4 days
>From Italy to Thailand = 10 days !!
Too bad that I'm still waiting for Keith Young's Blueprints I ordered in
November '95. :(
Happy Easter to everyone on Alpha.
Roberto Baldassari
Mantova - Italy - Europe
Earth - Sol System
Alpha Quadrant - Milky Way
baldas@mbox.vol.it
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 02:33:10 -0800
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: Robert's IMO has Arrived !
I'm happy to communicate that Robert Ruiz's IMO has arrived.
Next week I'll send all the 22 orders to the people who've sent their money
to Robert. The drawings will be shipped in *the Official Moonbase Alpha
Mailing Tubes* ! :)
Brian Aase
ulcsa@eskimo.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Pat Embury
PatriEmb@aol.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Beth Schoonmaker
BSchoon146@aol.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Jenny Lobb
lobbj@gunet.georgetown.edu
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Scott Everts
severts@interplay.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Jeanette Quimby
jquimby@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Bruce C. Dillahunty
bdillahu@mindspring.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Washington C. Garcia
wccg@pusit.admu.edu.ph
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Michael Decker
mdecker@mail.orion.org
n. of blueprints sets: 2
Robert Ruiz
Sfcafeguy@aol.com
n. of blueprints sets: 3
Ggreg Perry
ggperry@merle.acns.nwu.edu
n. of blueprints sets: 2
Alexandro Ojeda
marz@jax-inter.net
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Allen Michael Retodo
ndver@WELL.COM
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Rick Harris
RickHarris@gnn.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
David Welle
dwelle@online.dct.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Michael S. Kent
mskent@ucdavis.edu
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Thomas G. Konich Jr
tom@sp32.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Dennis Campbell
GT3083@Siucvmb.Siu.Edu
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Michael Perry
ay514@yfn.ysu.edu
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Mike Prendergast
nemo66@aol.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Raja Thiagarajan
sthiagar@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
n. of blueprints sets: 2
Raymond J. Connole
connole@lvs-emh.lvs.loral.com
n. of blueprints sets: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:21:44 -0700
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: Operation Plans-to-Us
To the Alphans who have ordered my blueprints through Robert Ruiz:
Hi Alphans,
Your order has been shipped this morning (April, 10).
Please, let me know via E-Mail when your order is received.
Thank you very much for your interest in my drawings and for placing your
orders.
Best Regards
P.S.: Sorry to bother who isn't interested in this message.
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:45:28 -0700
From: Marcy Ann Kulic (mkulic@buff44net.net)
Subject: Roberto's Blueprints on the Web!
Roberto kindly sent me scans of his wonderful blueprints which are now up
in the 1999 Cyber Library. Not as good as the originals, but the next best
thing for us financially strapped souls!
Marcy
http://www.buffnet.net/~mkulic/1999.html
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:30:26 -0700
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Marcy and Roberto: Congratulations are in Order
Hi All:
I just checked out Marcy Kulic's Space: 1999 Cyber Museum and I'm amazed at
what a wonderful site this is turning into in a REALLY short period of time.
Once again, Marcy, well done! It's going to be my pleasure to be part of
the collection.
Roberto's Eagle drawings in the museum look FABULOUS! This is the first time
I've seen the whole set as my prints haven't arrived yet, and I'm amazed at
what I saw here. Check it out at:
http://www.buffnet.net/~mkulic/1999.html
Roberto has done a wonderful job of fitting the studio Eagle sets into a
model in which they wouldn't really fit at all -- or at least not the way we
saw it in the series. As Roberto can tell you, there was no way to make the
command module set fit into the command module the way we saw it on the
screen. In reality it looks like there would have had to be some steps up
from the access corridor for the pilots to be able to look out the front
viewports, and there would have been a lot less headroom than that which we
saw in the studio set.
Of course steps on a soundstage set create all kinds of problems for cameras
and actors and technicians alike. "Falcon Crest" even went so far as to have
an earthquake in one of the episodes so they could have an excuse to remove
the steps to the two front doors in the foyer set (and the whole [raised]
"outside" veranda set with it). Steps end up costing productions a lot of
money in people standing about waiting while equipment is maneuvered around.
Steps are also always a potential accident waiting to happen as cables on a
set are strung about literally everywhere except for the area you see on
screen. Even in Space: 1999 the steps under the windows in Main Mission were
removed by episode five ("Earthbound"), almost certainly to better facilitate
filming the cast on the Main Mission set.
It's amazing that Roberto got it all to work as well as he did here. I also
loved the moon buggys and Alphan astronauts and Alpha symbols that he
included on the drawings.
I invite Roberto to write to the list and detail for us the process by which
he created these terrific additions to the collections of so many of us who
were lucky enough to take part in Operation Plans to Us. I'd like to hear
about the problems he encountered along the way while he created these
drawings, as well as any surprises or insights into the design of the Eagle
that he may have discovered while working on this project.
On behalf of all of us, thank you both, Marcy and Roberto, for your efforts
in making this material available to us.
Robert
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:28:17 -0700
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Roberto's Eagle Drawings
My Eagle blueprints were waiting for me when I got home from work today, and
all I can say is: THEY ARE FABULOUS!!!
They are DEFINITELY worth all the work it took to get them to us all.
THANK YOU, Roberto, for such a wonderful addition to my collection.
Robert
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 07:40:17 -0700
From: baldas@mbox.vol4tag.it (Roberto Baldassari)
Subject: Eagle Blueprints
Hi fellow Alphans,
As far as the orders some of you made will reach their mailboxes I plan to
post an 'article' in which I explain all the problems and oddnesses I
encountered in the making of the Eagle drawings. Robert Ruiz will be my
official foreign language supervisor so you should not have to guess what
I'm trying to say !
If you have any question, please post it to me and I'll include the answer
in the body of the article. The final text will be available in the Space
1999 Cyber Museum as well.
Later...