Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 16:17:07 -0800 From: PatriEmb@aol4tag.com Subject: Black Sun In today's episode, the pilot who said goodbye to Sandra appeared to be the same pilot who came back in Bringers of Wonder, as the fiance she was to marry after her tour of duty ended. Am I hallucinating? or noticing another FF "no one will notice" thing.
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 16:23:14 -0800 From: PatriEmb@aol4tag.com Subject: God Did anyone notice that the voice of God (presumed to be by Victor and John) was female? Let's hear it for theproducers for including an even stronger female role!!
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:46:56 -0800 From: "Jon D. Balinson" (firstname.lastname@example.org) Subject: Re: God What are you talking about? I heard a man!
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 05:52:25 -0800 From: Raja Thiagarajan (email@example.com) Subject: Re: Godh Er ... the voice of God (if that's who it was) was provided by Zienia Merton, who played Sandra. If you listen to the episode again, her voice is unmistakable ;-)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:01:43 -0800 From: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Godh You're all insane! I heard a hermaphoditic transsexual wearing a dress.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:43:22 -0800 From: Ronald Dudley (email@example.com) Regarding voices: Does anyone besides myself think that the voice of the boy Etrec in "Mark of Archanon" was dubbed? Somehow, the movements of his mouth and the words of the voice just don't seem in synch. Was the boy actor going through puberty, and his voice changing, or what? Was the voice dubbed possibly female, a la Bart Simpson as done by female Nancy Cartwright? And who's voice is Computer? Another unknown, uncredited female? Not Sylvia Anderson? Perhaps the role of the male God was performed by a female voice impersonation. just like Bart Simpson. (Bart's male friend Milhous is also played by a female.)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:15:23 -0800 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Gareth Randall) >And who's voice is Computer? Another unknown, uncredited female? Not Sylvia >Anderson? It's definitely not Sylvia. Irritatingly enough I did once know the name of the actress, but I've since forgotten. >Perhaps the role of the male God was performed by a female voice impersonation. For what it's worth, I've always heard it as a female voice. Gareth
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:52:19 -0800 From: Claudia Coles (email@example.com) Subject: Computer's Voice Revisited On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Gareth Randall wrote: > >And who's voice is Computer? Another unknown, uncredited female? Not Sylvia > >Anderson? > > It's definitely not Sylvia. Irritatingly enough I did once know the name of > the actress, but I've since forgotten. Perhaps you were first thinking of Majel Barret, Gene Roddenberry's *wife* who played Nurse Chapel on Star Trek:TOS. She was also the Star Trek computer voice from my recollection. It would have been an interesting coincidence to have the wife of another popular sci-fi series producer portray a computer's voice. TTFN. :) yfA, Claudia
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:40:13 -0800 From: Ermes Ventisetti (firstname.lastname@example.org) Subject: Black sun or black hole? Hello gang, in an episode of S1999 is used the term "black sun" for translate the real term scientific"black hole". According to the opinion of the physical J.A.Wheeler,creator of the term,the black hole is not a sun:the black hole is what remains of a star in last phase,called "gravitational breakup". Anybody could tell me in which episode of S1999 the Alpha base adventures of have gulfed from a black hole? Thank you and good-bye! Ermes Livorno - Italy - Europe
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:18:38 -0800 From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com Subject: Black sun or black hole? Hi Ermes: If I understand the question correctly you're asking in which episodes of Space: 1999 the moon travels through a black hole. To the best of my knowledge the Alphans travel through a black hole in episode three, "The Black Sun," and have travelled through another black hole just prior to the beginning of episode 25, "The Metamorph." I believe Helena states this in her log at the beginning of "The Metamorph." Anybody else have any more information on this or know more about the nature of black holes? Robert
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:12:07 -0800 From: Ronald Dudley (email@example.com) Black Sun in "Metamorph"? Wasn't it a space warp instead? In "Seed of Destruction" the evil asteroid was from the evil planet Kalthon, which had all its energy drained by one of those pesky Black Suns. In "Dragon's Domain" Koenig told Commissioner Dixon that the space program had learned about "black suns, neutron storms, radiation, and the like". In another Gerry Anderson production, "Into Infinity" aka "Day after Tommorrow" the characters' spaceship was sucked into one of these Black things. In an original Star Trek episode, the Enterprise slingshot off a Black Star and into the past, where it was mistaken for a UFO by NORAD. A jet fighter interceptor sent after it was tractor beamed, and the pilot had an adventure aboard the Enterprise. Kirk had to return the pilot, destroy all evidence of the Enterprise's visit, and get back to his own time. I think there was an episode of "Buck Rogers" in which they went back and forth into one of these too. "Space Academy" too (that show was so corny!). Black Holes/Suns on TV are so much more exciting than real ones.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 05:22:46 -0800 From: Amardeep_Chana@xn.xerox4tag.com (Chana,Amardeep) Subject: RE: Black sun or black hole? I think they must have taken the same kind of liberty that Gene Roddenberry took in Star Trek. They named their favorite weapon a 'phaser' because almost everybody knows that a laser can't possibly do the things they showed. A black hole cannot even be observed, except for high intensity x-ray emissions from matter impinging the event horizon. Nor does it have any size per se, so the moon wouldn't be able to just pass through it. The Alphans would be dead long before they knew what was happening to them. So it would seem a 'black sun' is a fictitious plot device to form a story around. Amardeep
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:22:59 -0800 From: "Stephen M. Arenburg" (firstname.lastname@example.org) Subject: RE: Black sun or black hole? Bzzz. No. From a large distance we infer their existance from these x-rays, but there are many noticeable effects. A black hole, or more properly, a *hypermass*, is caused by the gravitational collapse of a stars core - if the core has enough mass. The mass collapses to a point (there are possible quantum mechanical effects that would prevent the collapse to a true singularity, and one theorum that says that the mass freezes in place just as it passes the event horizon) and manifests itself as a point mass surrounded by an "event horizon", the raduis from the mass point where the escape velocity = the speed of light. Light emmitted from within, or passing through the event horizon does not have enough speed to escape and no light gets out, hence a "black" hole. However, due to it's gravity and quantum mechanical effects, there are ways to detect it. If there is mass that falls into a black hole, it emits energy (equivalent to half it's rest mass) as EM radiation. The material collapses (due to tidal forces) into an "accretion disk" and heats up - the entire spectrum is emitted. If there is no infalling mass, its presence can be detected by: Hawking radiation; Gravitational lensing; and course changes by gravitational forces. These can be detected from a few A.U. (or more) distance from the hypermass.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:18:07 -0800 From: Amardeep_Chana@xn.xerox4tag.com (Chana,Amardeep) Subject: RE: Black sun or black hole? No, my statement was not really precise. I just wanted to point out that they couldn't just turn on their starboard camera and say "Oh, look: A space anomaly. We're doomed." Amardeep
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:57:43 -0800 From: "Jon D. Balinson" (email@example.com) Subject: Re: Black sun or black hole? A black hole is a collapsed giant star. It is made of degenerate matter, i.e. the electron cloud around an atomic nucleus has been condensed into the nucleus. [NOTE: This note got cut right here into two pieces, one w/o a header!] it's a BH. But BH's are generally very small, on the order of a few km in diameter. You wouldn't be able to see the hole since it absorbs all light, but you could seeits sillouette against a background of stars. Alpha would never be able to see the tiny BH. Another problem is that all the matter around a BH is sucked into a vortex like effect called an accretion disk. The matter approaches the BH like water going down a drain, acceleratin towards the speed of light while superheating. It also emits x-rays, and gamma rays which would certainly kill everyone on Alpha. All that being said, a cosmic entity could save them all from all these dangers, which is how I would reconcile the physicas or unphysics of this episode.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:42:55 -0800 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Jon D. Balinson) >Thank you Mr. Balinson! > >So I take it the space warp (which I assume to be something like a tear in >the fabric of space) is TOTALLY fictional then? > >Robert A Space Warp is as far as I know, a purely sci-fi invention. We never had a lecture on Space Warps, or other fictional phenomena in my astrophysics courses at San Diego State. On the other hand, I never took a graduate course in the subject either, and it's been a few years
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 05:26:45 -0800 From: Amardeep_Chana@xn.xerox4tag.com (Chana,Amardeep) Subject: Discontinuity in Black Sun Why was Alan so surprised to find that Koenig kept one of the eagles operational? He flew it to test the strength of the force field fer crying out loud! Amardeep
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:51:30 -0800 From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com Subject: Re: Discontinuity in Black Sun Hi Amardeep: I don't think Alan was surprised that Koenig kept one of the Eagles operational (I think they were ALL operational). Alan's surprise came from the fact that Koenig was going to send one Eagle off as a life raft and that he hadn't been informed. Robert