Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:04:41 -0800
From: pietrini@utovrm4tag.it
Subject: BLOOPERS ! BLOOPERS ! BLOOPERS !
Hallo alphans! Let's go to find some great bloopers in Space 1999!
I think the #1 is the "Last Sunset" scene where John Koenig opens the
big window with the handle. Incredible! (thanks to ROBERT RUIZ)
But I have found another big blooper: in "Testament of Arkadia" there
is a scene in the Eagle passengers module, where Luke Ferro, Anna,and
others are talking. Well, we can see the computer video in the wall showing
trajectories and orbits. Now, let's take and see "Mission of Darians":
we can see another scene in passengers module, obviously in a completely
different contest, but the monitor is showing the same image ! Trajectories
and orbits are identical to other episode ones!
My English is really orrible...
Comments? Do you know some other bloopers ?
A big kiss to Cecilia Levi, Simone Monetti, and Gary "Trivia" Giraud
Andrea Pietrini
genetic Engineer
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 05:27:18 -0800
From: dbdlee@terra44port.net (Danny Lee)
Subject: Bloopers...
I have three of the "movies" that were released soon after the demise of
Space 1999. I've noticed three bloopers from them.
The first one is from War Games. In the destruction of Moon Base Alpha, I
guess the FX crew ran out of Eagles to destroy because they blew up a
CARDBOARD Eagle instead. If they had not placed the camera in an angle so
that one could see the eagle was flat then they might have gotten away with it.
For those who are curious it is the last Eagle to die on the pad.
The other one is a general one. In all the space fights, with fisticuffs,
have you ever noticed that the helmet visor comes flying off? It would be
rather impractical if they were really in space. It is especially evident
in Bringers of Wonder or "the Space Spaghetti" episodes. One can see Martin
Landau in the background frantically pulling down his visor as the camera
focuses on the duo in the Moonbuggy.
The last one is not really one, but I found it rates up there as a stupid
actor blooper. During one episode, Alan and Helena are chasing Maya, who
came down with Space Flu or something, out on the moon's surface. Alan's
suit gets punctured and he's losing precious air. Meanwhile Helena takes
her sweet time to get the repair kit while the indicator keeps dropping
quickly. If this is supposed to show awkwardness like in the Apollo films
then the producer's screwed up. Just before, Alan takes a pretty fast move
on Maya/Alien that would make a wrestler proud in the WWF.
I personally think that if my fellow astronaut was dying from a punctured
suit, I'd been busting ass to get that repair kit.
Anyone got anymore bloopers?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 08:43:52 -0800
From: pietrini@utovrm4tag.it
Subject: ANOTHER BLOOPER on BREAKAWAY ? OH YEAH !!!!!!!!!
Hallo guys,
SFcafeguy@aol.com asked some more bloopers on breakaway.
OF COURSE !! There is a GIANT blooper in the beginning of episode.
It has been discovered by SIMONE MONETTI (artuik@cdc.it), a friend of mine,
some time ago. Well, in the beginning of episode, Jim Nordstrom and his
colleague make a radioactive survey in the nuclear waste deposit. Suddenly
the first astronaut drives mad, and pulls Nordstrom on the floor.Look at
him! His transparent visor on the Helmet is open ! Not bad, if we consider
that the two astronauts are on the moon surface......
Have a nice day !!!!
AndreaPietrini (pietrini@utovrm.it)
BY THE WAY: This blooper has been seen on italian S1999 version.
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:29:56 -0800
From: HNoll@t-online4tag.de (HNoll)
Subject: Bloopers
Hi !
In Episode 36. Space Warp, where Maya lost her control over her metamorphic
powers, there is a scene in which Alan fights against her on the lunar surface.
When she takes him out of the moon buggy in which i s going, it's clearly
visible that his visor is open(!) for a few seconds.
In slow motion it's a nice look.
Horst Noll
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:55:52 -0800
From: Gary Girouard (GGirouard@ri44hosp.edu)
lets not forget frazier getting into the electrical closet in beta cloud and
the doors open without tony's voice commands to open the door... gary
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:26:29 -0800
From: atomicpossum@usa.pipe44line.com (Jon "Mr. Wonderful" Stadter)
In "Voyager's Return," the waterspray they used to simulate the
Quellar (sp?) drive's thrust can be seen, quite clearly, _dripping_ in a
very non-zero-gee manner. Not Freddie's fault, as it's eason one, but
obviously someone else had the 'no one will notice' attitude on at least
one day.
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:20:22 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Cardboard Eagles
Danny Lee (dbdlee@terraport.net) writes:
>The first one is from War Games. In the destruction of Moon Base Alpha, I
>guess the FX crew ran out of Eagles to destroy because they blew up a
>CARDBOARD Eagle instead. If they had not placed the camera in an angle so
>that one could see the eagle was flat then they might have gotten away with
it.
>For those who are curious it is the last Eagle to die on the pad.
Dan's right again. (To Dan: How big is your TV screen. I totally missed
this until I was looking for it.) To save you all some trouble this shot
(unless there's more than one and Dan's talking about another) takes place
about 5.5 minutes into "War Games." It's a medical rescue Eagle that gets
blown up on the pad, and sure enough, it's distorted enough to see that it's
a flat photo rather than a 3D model. The very next scenes are those cool
ones of people getting sucked out into space.
Since it's a medical rescue eagle, is this a blooper within a blooper? Why
do you send a medical rescue eagle to attack with?
Good eye, Dan!
Robert
[NOTE: Could not find original of following two notes,
they are taken from two nother notes that quote them.]
On Wed, 13 Mar 1996, Gary Girouard wrote:
> actually, when they show the space station, in the beginning the space
> was spinning one way, and at the explosion is exactlt the same but
> reverse going out of the moons orbit before it explodes, gary
On Wed, 13 Mar 1996 Sfcafeguy@aol.com wrote:
> I've got a couple more bloopers, but first about cardboard Eagles. There is
> a scene in "Full Circle" (the Alphans-Revert-to-Cavepeople story [complete
> with instantaneous tribal costumes and tribal medical rituals]) where there
> are three Eagles landed in close proximity to one another in the jungle.
> Problem is there were only two same-size Eagles of the four sizes made (5.5
> inches, 11 inches, 22 inches, and 44 inches). The third Eagle, the one
> furthest in the distance is a photograph. Watch for it.
>
> And while I'm on the subject of "Full Circle," all they would have had to say
> to make this episode even remotely plausible is that some entity was playing
> with the Alphans for sport. This would explain the tribal clothes and
> ready-made tribal rituals, and it would also explain [okay, I'm stretching it
> here] Koenig and the others getting their Alphan clothes and accoutrements
> back after going through the mist a second time. As written, this show is a
> mess, but the direction and exterior location shooting is excellent. I have
> always remembered this episode as one of the WORST until re-viewing it
> yesterday. While I still think the story is pretty bad, the beginnings with
> the Eagles landing, and the live action misty jungle settings, and racing
> around on the planet in the moonbuggy were pretty cool.
>
> Now for the bloopers:
>
> "Missing Link" - When the command module from the crashed Eagle is lifted
> away (carrying Koenig, Russell, and Carter) the cockpit door is OPEN and the
> access corridor is going with them, yet not on the miniature. In the
> miniature, the rescue Eagle only takes the command module, not the access
> corridor section as well. They probably left the door open to fit Koenig's
> stretcher in the set, but this was REALLY stupid.
>
> "Testament of Arkadia" - There is a scene where the Eagle comes out from
> BEHIND the sun. The scale is TOTALLY wrong, and if the editor had only cut a
> few frames until all of the Eagle was visible in front of this (light bulb?),
> this would have worked. Probably not Brian Johnson's fault, but definitely
> the editor's fault and ultimately the producer's fault for approving the
> final edit.
>
> Finally, not a blooper, but did anyone notice in "The Last Enemy" that
> Dione's crew's costumes all look exactly like the costumes from the "fembots"
> in "The Bionic Woman" episode called "Fembots in Las Vegas" (I think that's
> the title)?
>
> Robert
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:03:10 -0800
From: Allen Michael Retodo (ndver@well4tag.com)
Subject: Re: Bloopers
In "All That Glistens," the part when the Eagle is blasts off of
the planet, look at the middle utility pod. When on the ground, it has
the science utility pod, ( the one with the extra side compartments)
but when in the air, the utility pod some how is replaced by the regular
pod without the extra side compartments. maybe it broke during filming,
who knows.
Mike
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:20:45 -0800
From: Amardeep_Chana@xn.xerox4tag.com (Chana,Amardeep)
Subject: Bloopers
Well, actually, this is a nitpick.
In almost every planet-side episode when they show the moon up in the
sky, it looks like it is _inside_ of the planet's atmosphere and
always in full phase. Plus they never even show the big chunk the
'Breakaway' explosion took out of the far side either.
Amardeep
[NOTE: Another reply, no original.]
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:18:30 -0800
From: Gary Girouard (GGirouard@ri44hosp.edu)
Subject: EAGLE "TANKS" in LAST ENEMY? -Reply
for that matter, why did we never see the spining eagle that explodes in
any episodes either? gary
>>> ggreg perry (ggreg@nwu.edu) 03/13/96 04:12pm >>>
if you look really closely during the THIS EPISODE clips at the beginning of
the LAST ENEMY, there's an explosion shot that you can just see part of
one of the tanks used (and never used again) in INFERNAL MACHINE.
i always wondered why we never saw these again. apparently we did,
or at least the film editor did at one point!
ggreg
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:42:01 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Re: Bloopers
In a message dated 96-03-13 15:04:51 EST, Mike Retodo writes:
>In "All That Glistens," the part when the Eagle is blasts off of
>the planet, look at the middle utility pod. When on the ground, it has
>the science utility pod, ( the one with the extra side compartments)
>but when in the air, the utility pod some how is replaced by the regular
>pod without the extra side compartments. maybe it broke during filming,
>who knows.
Hi Mike:
I noticed this too in "All That Glisters." It kind of made me think one FX
team wasn't in very good communication with the other, or maybe they just
went to that pub that they frequented after work (mentioned in "The Making of
Space: 1999") one too many times. Maybe the wires broke and the model DID
break and they needed to get the shot so they used another. Did we ever see
the connecting pod passenger module again after this? It figured heavily in
"The Metamorph" and in the next filmed episode "All that Glisters," but I
don't think we ever saw it again.
Robert
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:42:05 -0800
From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com
Subject: Re: Spacesuit Helmet Bloopers and Invisible Rocks
In a message dated 96-03-13 15:02:47 EST, dweis@indiana.edu writes:
>Right after this happens, Steiner smashes his helmet into a rock that
>wasn't even there a few seconds before! First we see Nordstrom holding
>Steiner, no rocks in sight. Next, cut to Steiner's helmet smashing into
>a rock.
Hi David:
Actually Steiner lives. Nordstrom (the crazed one) is the one who smashes
his helmet after he tries to get away, runs into the force field, and falls
backward.
This is blooper two in "Breakaway," because Nordstrom falls backward, but he
hits the rock face first.
Robert
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 06:23:10 -0800
From: Ronald Dudley (dudleyrd@expert.cc.purdue4tag.edu)
[No Subject]
On Mon, 11 Mar 1996 22:10:54
Sfcafeguy@aol.com wrote
>Did you all spot the blooper with Koenig's spacesuit just before he crashes
>the Eagle? In most of the scenes he's wearing a kind of flat fabric collar,
>but then just before the crash, and after, he's wearing the usual accordian
>type. The only thing I can think of is that the scenes were shot out of
>order and the accordian types weren't ready in time for the start of shooting
>so they fabricated these cheapies that we never saw again.
>
>Did I miss any bloopers in "Breakaway"?
>
>Robert
The same thing happened with Collins. When you first see that Collins has
the disease, and his glowing eyes, his collar is accordion-type. When he
then gets to the window to smash it, his collar is flat!
There's been lots of talk about the special eagle docking modules. The one in
Earthbound had a retracting/extendable round connecting tube, with a black
collapsable collar at the end. Alan's in Guardian of Piri had a rigid looking
square connecting tube. This was where he referred to "Mary Celeste".
After Koenig and Carter had their fight, you see that the eagle that lands back
on Alpha has the tapering extensions on the side, the same module as used in
Metamorph.
I read a good blooper in the archives from a year ago: In Earthbound, when
Simmons is going berzerk in his hibernation cell at the end, one of the
supposedly sleeping aliens turns his head to look over at Simmons as he is
beating on the glass walls!
I think the space suit neck bloopers are associated with changes made after
the early episodes.
I have noticed several changes in the show after the first 4 episodes.
(Breakaway, Matter of Life and Death, Ring Around the Moon, Black Sun).
1. (a change that has lead to bloopers)
The neck part of most (all?) orange spacesuits changed from a smooth cylindrical
shape into a collapsable, accordion-like piece. Early episodes feature the flat
collar. Later episodes have the accordion-type. I guess on some days of filming
the wardrobe got mixed up, as they were phasing in the new accordion collars.
2. Of course: (a change, not a blooper)
The opening credit for Barry Morse was changed after the first 4 episodes
The first 4 consisted of the opening scene of Breakaway, with the alignment
of the Sun, Earth, and Moon. The remaining 20 featured Barry's face looking
into that globe-thing.
3. Kano didn't have his rotating desk/console in the first 4 episodes.
Of course, Kano wasn't even in Breakaway. Kano's desk may have even not
been in #5 Earthbound.
4. Most glaring of all, the set of Main Mission was changed. In the first 4,
the 6 desks/consoles are surrounded on 3 sides by stairs, about 3-4 steps.
In the later episodes, the 7 desks/consoles are surrounded by steps on only
2 sides. If you are in MM facing the Big Screen on your left is a wall of
computer panels, and above them is an observation deck. To your back is
the Commander's office. To your right are some windows. In the early
episodes, the 3rd side of steps lead up to these windows. In the later
episodes, there was no 3rd side of steps, and instead, the steps going up
to the commanders office simply made longer. These windows to the right
of the Big Screen are a fixed height above their adjoining floor. So when
the 3rd side of steps were removed, and the window's floor lowered to the
same level as the desks/consoles, the windows were moved down with their
adjoining floor. I suppose this was done to facilitate filming, so that
cameras could be on the same level as Paul, Sandra, et al. and be moved
around more. The previous setup may have been crowded.
The blooper about this is: how to explain why the alphans would have ripped
out a wall (with windows) to lower it? They would have to decompress
Main Mission to do so, because the wall with windows was all there was
between MM and the Lunar vacuum. All that trouble, just to rip out some
stairs? I guess that even this early into the series, the producers
were hoping "Nobody will notice". Freddiezation before Freddie arrived!
Does anybody know if there was a long break after the first 4 episodes,
(during which they changed Barry Morse's credits, the Main Mission setup,
the spacesuits' necks, and added Kano's desk)?
Did they make 4 episodes, and have wait for approval to make more?
Ronald
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:34:04 -0800
From: "connole_rj_ray (184864)" (connole@lvs-emh.lvs.loral4tag.com)
Subject: Earthbound
And whilst on the subject of bloopers what about Earthbound. When Zantors ship lands on
the moon the graceful piroette it makes. You know the guy holding the strings did a quick
save making it spin instead of fall over. Or the take off when the Caldoran ship bounces
and you see a quick string as it flight begins to curve. And most famously is Roy Dotrices
freakout and one the aliens in the background sits up an looks at him. Editing at its best.
Also my favorite is the Bringers of Wonder. The fire in a vacuum, Smoke billowing and the
plumes are not to scale. Smoke is just as hard to scale as water in miniature if you don't
use the right equipment.
Finally, what about the Exiles. The spacewalk by Koenig and Maya. Instead of a smooth
exit you see them bounce up and down as they leave the eagle. Almost like puppets or
bad Peter Pan's on a stage.
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:47:16 -0800
From: Amardeep_Chana@xn.xerox4tag.com (Chana,Amardeep)
Subject: RE: Earthbound
>Also my favorite is the Bringers of Wonder. The fire in a vacuum, Smoke billowing and the
>plumes are not to scale. Smoke is just as hard to scale as water in miniature if you don't
>use the right equipment.
I very much doubt there would even be smoke. Gasses tend to dissipate
very rapidly in a vacuum, not just waft around. Watch footage of a
lunar excursion module lift off sometime and you'll know what I mean.
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:08:05 -0800
From: MikeCombs@aol4tag.com
Subject: Re: Bloopers
In a message dated 96-03-13 21:49:12 EST, Sfcafeguy@aol.com writes:
>...where there
>are three Eagles landed in close proximity to one another in the jungle.
> Problem is there were only two same-size Eagles of the four sizes made (5.5
>inches, 11 inches, 22 inches, and 44 inches). The third Eagle, the one
>furthest in the distance is a photograph. Watch for it.
This may very well be correct, I haven't seen this episode for a while. But
I just wanted to comment that having different-scale models in the same
miniature landscape is no problem: You just put the larger-scale models to
the front and the smaller scale ones to the back. It's called forced-
perspective, and it can make a twenty-foot-deep miniature do the job of a
sixty-foot-deep one.