Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 11:34:19 -0800
From: Claudia Coles (ccoles@dcez.dcez4tag.com)
Subject: Happy Valentine's / What if...Alphan Holidays?

Hi fellow Alphans!  I just want to wish you all a Happy Valentine's Day
from the United States.  And BTW, that brings up a topic of discussion: 
do you think that Alphans could have made any effort to hold holiday or
special day celebrations of some sort?  Understanding, of course, that
Alpha was made up of international personnel, could they still have strove
to maintain or create special days that they could all participate in
celebrating, in order to "keep in touch with their *humanity* and/or
*earthliness*" so-to-speak? 

Perhaps holding onto national holidays might prove difficult since,
collectivel speaking, every other day would end up being some national
holiday :).  But what about creating their own?  For example, how about a
holiday where they could:  1) focus on certain positive things that they
have undergone over the many months (years - in space calculations?); 2)
celebrate birthdays; 3) remember deaths/losses, or; 4) a day to just plain
relax? 

Are holidays indicative of a more stable society or could a community 
such as Alpha be able to develop and maintain special days within their 
social structure?  Just a thought.  What do you all think?  See you around.


Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:48:01 -0800 From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com Subject: Alphan Holidays Ooh, Claudia, what an interesting topic. Off the top of my head I’d think they would try to maintain holidays after they got over the initial disaster of the nuclear explosion. I think this would be very important for them, and that Koenig and Dr. Russell would be all for it for morale purposes. I don’t think they could shut down Alpha and have everyone take the day off, but they could certainly observe their particular holidays in their own way and amongst friends in a relaxed atmosphere some time. I think if I were commanding I would let them observe in this way, put in for time off on particular days if they liked, etc. In addition, I might create a special Alphan holiday in which everyone could join in and share a mutual bond, regardless of their particular backgrounds. This could be one day all Alphans share, sort of like Thanksgiving in America wherein the pilgrims got together to count their blessings at getting through their hardships. I see this as a day to be thankful but also for Koenig to address everyone and to reaffirm their accomplishments during the preceding year, and that they shouldn’t give up on the dream of finding a new home. As for a day, September 13 comes to mind, the anniversary of the nuclear catastrophe, and the first day of their new lives. Robert
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:25:26 -0800 From: Ryan Minor (hunter@elder44hostel.org) Thanks for the holiday greeting, Claudia! I remember one "holiday" scene on Alpha, in _Guardian of Piri_ when the Alphans were celebrating Koenig's findings about living conditions on Piri (which of course were fabricated by the Guardian/Central Computer). The juxtaposition of Koenig, battered and bloody, being toasted by Helena, et al. was an excellent illustration of the madness that had overtaken Alpha. I don't know if Alpha would celebrate the most obvious anniversary (September 13th, duh!); I have a feeling that they would at least party and remember their loved ones back on Earth and those lost on the Moon's journey so far rather than succumb to what otherwise must be one of the sombrest of days on Alpha. Birthdays would be big hits, I'd wager. Holidays and other celebrations must have been very central to Alpha's mental hygiene; maybe we would have seen more in Season III... I've been curious about Alphans' hobbies. As a model railroader, I'm very jealous of Alphan free time. They must have developed some interesting pastimes to endure the boredom between alien encounters, planetfalls, etc. P.S. Is Valentine's Day celebrated anywhere outside of the U.S. and Canada, or is it another of those Hallmark greeting card-created holidays? P.P.S. Does anyone on the list know for sure that S:1999 will NOT be coming back in some form for the "fin de siecle"? If Fox brought back _The Munsters_, why not S:1999? We must have some insiders lurking somewhere... Regards. =============================== Ryan Minor Elderhostel, Inc. 75 Federal Street Boston, MA 02110 United States of America =============================== Elderhostel is a non-profit organization dedicated to serving the educational needs of older adults. Please visit us at: http://www.elderhostel.org ===============================
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:34:53 -0800 From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com Ryan (and group): I read with pleasure your thoughtful take on the holiday situation on Alpha, and I also wondered if Valentine’s day or equivalent is celebrated (and how) by those of us on the list from outside the U.S. At the risk of going off topic, I’d be curious to hear from the international set on this. One thing, though, wouldn’t it make sense for Koenig to purposely choose September 13 to reclaim the date and to change the focus and give the Alphans something to look forward to rather than something that’s going to cause them to reflect on the disaster year after year? Just a thought, Robert
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:05:26 -0800 From: jsullivan@internet.kronos4tag.com Say, Since we talking about holidays and all. I was wondering if there were any births on Alpha? I remember something about one child born and he turned into some sort of 'god' but it was so long ago and my memory is fuzzy of the details. Does anybody remember this episode? Jim Sullivan #111 Planetary Survey Team Leader QUOTE: "Someone's got to explore the planets Koenig doesn't."
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:34:47 -0800 From: PatriEmb@aol4tag.com I would think that the Alphans would celebrate holidays, especially during their first Christmas out of earth's orbit, to help boost morale. Alphans would remember the times they had while on earth, and would want to IMHO, celebrate them.
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:18:18 -0800 From: Petiepry@aol4tag.com I have to agree with Claudia in that the international mixture of residents would bring into the organization a variety of holidays. Maybe they would celebrate them all and then make up their own holidays. This also brings up a question that I have had-how did moon base Alpha come to be? In other words, how was it organized. What was the state of the world in the fictional 1999? I think I remember something about a big war where Koenig's wife was killed?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 21:16:14 -0800 From: dwelle@online.dct4tag.com (David Welle) Subject: Re: Alphan Hobbies Ryan Minor (hunter@elderhostel.org) wrote: >I've been curious about Alphans' hobbies. As >a model railroader, I'm very jealous of Alphan >free time. They must have developed some >interesting pastimes to endure the boredom >between alien encounters, planetfalls, etc. Not to spoil the thought of lots of free time (which I could use right about now!), but I suspect they'd have less free time than one would expect at first glance. When in Earth orbit, many of their food and material supplies could come from Earth. Now, they have to work to recycle every bit they can; plus, in the case of minerals, mine for more, and process it, and anything they found on the planets they found. The biology departments would be busy trying to grow alien plants for possible for or pharmaceutical uses. Plus, with all the damage Alpha and its Eagles were taking, all of which had to be repaired (or recycled in the case of Eagles damaged beyond repair). Yet, despite all of that, they certainly weren't working all the time, as we saw several times in the series. In fact, they /did/ sometimes look downright bored! These people obviously excelled at what they did--which is why they got to Alpha in the first place. Alpha was always repaired by the next encounter, with plenty of Eagles in excellent working condition. So come to think of it, on top of everything else, they did indeed have to fight boredom. That's where the sheer diversity of Alpha's people comes in. They had the art, music, games, literary pursuits, and other pastimes of many cultures to draw on. And I think we saw some of each. Furthermore, with all of those people and ideas almost caged together on a lonely world with lots of time on their hands, and potentially lots of fear of what might lie ahead, and pain over what they left behind, one can imagine them huddled together in the warmer corners of the base, honing their skills on long-favorite pastimes, and creating new ones in the mix. Well, guess I waxed poetic instead of specific, so can anyone add anything here?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 21:16:14 -0800 From: dwelle@online.dct4tag.com (David Welle) Subject: Re: Alphan Holidays Ryan Minor (hunter@elderhostel.org) wrote: >I don't know if Alpha would celebrate the most >obvious anniversary (September 13th, duh!); >I have a feeling that they would at least party >and remember their loved ones back on Earth >and those lost on the Moon's journey so far >rather than succumb to what otherwise must >be one of the sombrest of days on Alpha. Sfcafeguy@aol.com (Robert) wrote: >One thing, though, wouldn't it make sense for Koenig to purposely choose >September 13 to reclaim the date and to change the focus and give the Alphans >something to look forward to rather than something that's going to cause them >to reflect on the disaster year after year? Perhaps a two-day combination of both would be celebrated. I think that reflection on the disaster and what/who they lost would be inevitable. But September 14 could be a kind of day of thanks, celebrating both the fact they survived the 13th, but the continuing years in deep space--as well as a chance to look forward, as Robert suggested. I don't think that Koenig could really "choose" it though, so much as maybe suggest the idea (or perhaps someone else would), and see if others take it up. Speaking of two-day holidays, I think there's similar examples of negative-turned-into-positive holiday here. The only one that comes to mind at the moment is Eastertime in the Christian religion, though this is spread over four days (ignoring Lent). I think I'm overlooking an obvious two-day example, but can't remember which. On to the broader subject of other holidays. Many of the major holidays, religious or otherwise, especially those common to at least a large fraction of the Alphans, would likely continue to be celebrated in a semi-public fashion. I don't know of any holiday that is common to the entire Earth (in the sense of being generally recognized by all countries, since there will almost always be some people in each nation that celebrate a holiday the others don't). For example, not even New Years Day is celebrated the same day over the whole planet. Considering the very international flavor of Alpha and other factors (e.g. the WWIII of S19's "alternate reality"), some national holidays may have faded, or at least become private, instead of public celebrations, since there might be only one or a few representatives of the region that celebrated the holiday left on Alpha. Valentine's Day? I suppose that hinges on how international it is /now/. I don't have a clue on this. Anyone else? Then again, even if it is not very international, it or other national holidays could suddenly become so important to the Alphans that it becomes major, just because the feelings surrounding it become very important to them. So perhaps holidays on Alpha could be a multi-cultural (multi-planet?) patchwork of already "major" holidays, formerly "minor" holidays turned "major," and totally new holidays, like a one- or two-day Breakaway observance. Of course, other than some apparently spontaneous, unnamed celebrations (perhaps new holidays, or perhaps just parties), we didn't see much of that on Alpha. As someone suggested, maybe this would have been mentioned if a third season had been broadcast (or maybe not). Perhaps it's up to us to decide? Opinions?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 22:17:53 -0800 From: Sfcafeguy@aol4tag.com Subject: Alphan Holidays and Hobbies Responding to a pair of posts from David Welle on 96-02-15 concerning Alphan Holidays and Hobbies: David! My kind of guy! I like this sort of realistic exploring/delving into the psychology of the Alphan situation in terms of real human needs and emotions. As for "I don't think that Koenig could really ‘choose’ it [the observance date] though, so much as maybe suggest the idea (or perhaps someone else would), and see if others take it up," I totally agree. I was assuming that someone (Helena, or perhaps a committee) reports to John on base morale and that they would have just naturally come up with the idea of doing something to counteract the painful associations of the breakaway anniversary and also to boost morale with some sort of affirmation celebration and the equivalent of a state of the union address or pep talk. I also don’t think this would start out as an official holiday so much as a gathering of affirmation, but that it would become a holiday over the course of the first two or three years in space through repetition and the constant need to address morale issues. (I know that I’m always more high spirited, for instance, as Christmas approaches, even though it’s not for particularly religious reasons.) Besides, John’s already busy enough without deciding EVERYthing. As I was saying to Ggreg recently, Koenig doesn’t seem to delegate, and even says things like "Alan take Eagle 1 down there and…" which always makes me wonder how he knows which Eagles are launch ready, and why doesn’t someone there in flight control know better than Koenig which Eagle to assign. How can he keep up on all these details (and presumably in other areas) and still get anything done on Alpha? As for hobbies, we’ve seen Helena sculpting and Tony making beer, various Alphans tanning or playing games in rec rooms, and God knows Kano was probably surfing the net and scoping out IRC chat rooms for the technically minded, but have we seen any other Alphans’ hobbies presented in any episodes? Thoughts please. Robert
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 07:46:47 -0800 From: Mark Eidemiller (Mark_Eidemiller@pgn4tag.com) A few random thoughts on the subject: Once they stabilized their situation (gotten past the need for survival), and pondered on their future (if indeed they would have a future), they might have considered a major archival project. Face it. Everyone wants to live forever, in some form, even if it's in the memories of those who follow. If the people of Alpha thought they'd never see home again, they might turn their efforts towards recording their thoughts and feelings for posterity. There's a project like that going on now (if it isn't done already), where the thoughts, feelings, and images of the survivors of the Holocaust were recorded and put on CD-ROM for future generations. With their free time, they could compose diaries. Tie the comlocks into some storage set aside, to make recording their thoughts easier. On the scientific side, there might be an effort to save a library of sorts of tissue samples for potential cloning. And in looking within, they might take their eyes off of the hopelessness of ever returning home. As far as the holidays go, anything's possible. In times long past, many holidays were just excuses for time off by the people, whose existance was busy and tedious. Holidays are times of remembering (Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc.), and would be a strong morale booster in times of extreme stress. Even an Oktoberfest (with beer) would be a welcome break in the routine. Take care, all. Pastor Mark Eidemiller Moonbase Chaplain
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:43:10 -0800 From: Levi@spirit4tag.com.au (Graham Levi and Cecilia Levi) Subject: Re: Alphan Hobbies. Hi Everyone, This is a quirky little topic, but in the series we see some of the hobbies that stop the boardem - Space Brain shows us Jigsaw competitions, The exiles - art and pottery, The Lambda Factor - games of chance/poker, The Troubled Spirit - a concert, plus rummurs of chess competitions, Paul and his guitar, video and film watching. They probably had a special evening with films like "Plan 9 From Outer Space". You would have to keep your sense of humour in space. You could also be a serious Solarium junkie. The books talk more about hobbies - eg/ someone suggested flower arranging, but Paul was very cruel about locating flowers on a Moonbase. So that idea died in the bud, you could say. Yours, Cecilia.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:33:21 -0800 From: Carol Naylor (100645.2613@compu44serve.com) Hi Jeanette >Yes, there was a jigsaw competition, but if I remember correctly it is >mentioned only in the books and was not actually part of the televised series. Actually there was are jigsaws at the opening of "Space Brain" to emphasise that the Alphans have nuttin' better to do - Koenig breaks the moonbase speed record for one featuring a Medieval-style painting while Kelly and his wife (?) are completing one in their quarters. >The only mention of music I remember from the actual television series is >Paul's guitar playing. There was also the Sittar concert being attended by many of the Alphans at the opening of "Troubled Spirit". The music was then used throughout the rest of the episode to indicate that Matteo's dopplganger was on the loose (really good use of the sound - well, it spooked me anyway)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:53:35 -0800 From: Levi@spirit4tag.com.au (Graham Levi and Cecilia Levi) Subject: Re: Holidays & Valentines. Hi Everyone, As one of the International Set (Australia), Valentines day is celebrated here. I think the world of the Alphans, would be similar to ours, in that advertising and multinational companies would be setting the agenda with marketing of world wide holidays and special days. Sure, countries would still have their own special days, but the world is rapidly shrinking in communication terms. This means that marketing has a bigger reach and effect on us. I remember, in the dim dark past of Australia's recent history, when Valentine's Day was not celebrated or even remembered. It is now very popular and very lucrative for marketing industries. The signs for Easter went up today. What does that tell us about our world?? Cecilia.